AA Cells / Battery & Camera

[adsatinder]

I am starting this thread because
for a CAMERA I find
AA Cells / AA Battery / Pencil Cells / LR6 / R6
are more convenient to use for long holidays
without charging facility always on the move.
This is the important time when I or you may want
to have Pics / Videos of the place, occasion etc.

We are discussing here only Camera Cells or Battery.
As these are most important to save us from many situations.

AA Cells are:

source: Eneloop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Battery is pack of Cells

Source: google images
You can call it -
Proprietary Battery,
Non-Standard Battery Pack,
Custom Battery Pack,
Special Battery Pack,
Battery Pack
etc. etc.
Every manufacturer makes its battery according to their need & camera models.
Voltage of these batteries can be 2V to 7v or more accordingly.

Cells & Battery for Camera:

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_(electricity)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Batteries.jpg

Common people often say cell or battery is same thing.
Even Google shows Cell as a Battery - LOL !
Type "battery", you will see picture of cell / cells & batteries too.
But Cell is an individual pc.
Battery is pack of two Cells or more arranged in series or parallel circuit.

When you put 2 or more cells in a camera,
it becomes battery (All Cells connected to provide power to camera) in that Battery Compartment.


In Camera world there are few Battery Banks available till now
that is significant enough to work for most of the outdoor situation.
Just it is because there is no standard of Micro USB size.
Every manufacturer is making his own size of USB port.

Mobiles are having such battery banks etc. because of
Micro USB standard size / specifications are same for every manufacturer.

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AA battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of battery sizes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"
Most common name - AA

Other Common Names - D14 or HP7 (In Britain until the 1980s)
Pencil-sized, Penlight, Mignon, MN1500, MX1500

Type 316 (Soviet Union/Russia), UM 3 (JIS), #5 (China), 6135-99-052-0009 (NSN)(carbon-zinc), 6135-99-195-6708 (NSN)(alkaline)[3]

IEC name - LR6 (alkaline), R6 (carbon–zinc), FR6 (Li–FeS2), HR6 (NiMH), KR6 (NiCd), ZR6 (NiOOH)

ANSI/NEDA name - 15A (alkaline), 15D (carbon–zinc), 15LF (Li–FeS2), 1.2H2 (NiMH), 1.2K2 (NiCd)

Typical capacity (mAh) - 2700 (alkaline), 1100 (carbon–zinc), 3000 (Li–FeS2), 1700–2900 (NiMH), 600–1000 (NiCd)

Dimensions mm (inches) - dia. × h.14.5 × 50.5 (0.57 × 1.99)

Comments - Introduced 1907, but added to ANSI standard sizes in 1947 "
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There are many AA Cells using Cameras.
But many Point & Shoot cameras have only few options having AA Cell.
Please contribute in making list for available / latest models of
Canon, Nikon, Sony, Pentax, Olympus, Samsung, Fuji etc.
without concerning price range / P&S or DSLR type etc.
These cameras should have AA Cell compatibility anyhow.

New Mirror-Less Cameras
these are killing DSLRs,
what is the trend / future about AA Cells.
As these are compact enough & do not seem to work on AA Cells.

In DSLR Cameras,
these are mostly using Li-Ion Battery but
some battery grip / converters etc. are available for particular models,
where You can use AA Cells instead of Li-Ion battery.
Please provide details on this also.

 

[gkapoor]

After having used both types, I find battery better than cells.

 

[anupmathur]

Why would you want a portable battery bank to recharge AA cells?
Simply carry as many AA cells as you are likely to need. Charge them when a power outlet is available.

 

[anupmathur]

After having used both types, I find battery better than cells.

This is confusing. What exactly do you mean?
A battery is just a series/parallel connection of two cells or more.

 

[adsatinder]

AA Cell vs Battery

He mean to say Battery is more reliable and have more capacity to have more photographs.

Mostly batteries are of Li-ion type.
AA Cells are Metal Hallide type with less capacity may be 66 % only.

He is comfortable in investing on extra battery.
Companies price for 1 Li ion Battery is more than 1k per PC depending on the model of camera.

RK Bharat Bhai carries a box of AA Cells on camping trips.

I also like this thing.

My focus is purely on AA Cells
hence a dedicated thread is made for benefit of others too.

Power Banks are only for Li ion battery of mobile having Standard Micro USB Port.
I do not want power bank for AA Cells, but for Canon or Nikon Moulded Battery that cannot be connected without any standard port for charging.
Camera industry is not standardised till now for profit making game.

This Li ion battery is moulded in different forms.
AA cells cannot fit here without any dedicated shaped cover with pins at side walls etc.

 

[deepakdilme]

AA cells are more useful then Li ion batteries,AA cells are easily available in shops and they last longer than normal batteries of point & shoot cameras.In my earier P & S Nikon L 810 i used 4 2800 mah AA cells and believe me they lasts up to 800-900 clicks.

 

[anupmathur]

He mean to say Battery is more reliable and have more capacity to have more photographs.

Mostly batteries are of Li-ion type.
AA Cells are Metal Hallide type with less capacity may be 66 % only.
....

What you mean is purpose built batteries or proprietary batteries.
I think it is important to use the correct terms/nomenclature in any such discussion!
And it is incorrect to say that batteries are of Li-ion type. There are rechargeable batteries that are Nickel-Cadmium, Nickel-Metal-Hydride, Lithium-ion and even lead acid!

 

[hensil]

Cells/battery nomenclature are interchangeable. Anup is very correct.
No. of shots have nothing to do with different types of batteries but depend on ampere of the battery. High amp>more shots.
Li-ion is the latest tech and the best in my opinion. They hold charge for long and also long lasting. They are very consistent throughout the power range. Manufacturers can computerize them. Unfortunately, they not available in AA,AAA or other sizes, only proprietary.
The second best are the Ni-Mh. They are more lasting than Ni-Cd and holds more power. The newer tech Ni-Mh batteries like Sanyo's Eneloop can hold power for more than 1 year and loose only 10%. I have more than 50 of Eneloops and well worth it. These Ni-Mh are not a good substitute for Li-ion because you may need 8 Ni-Mh to substitute one small Li-ion. Just imagine the weight! There is more chances of one of the eight failing that can affect the power of entire lot.
Alkaline batteries are available in low power. They are no match for the high power gadgets.
BTW, i do have battery bank (Energizer 5 Amp) that has output of 5, 12, and 16 volts. I always carry this while traveling to charge my Laptop, iPads and phones. I'm not worried of camera batteries as I have enough to last for more than 8 full days of shooting. Just to inform, there are specific car chargers to charge camera batteries and there are inverters also which I have in my car.
Henry

 

[gkapoor]

This is called a ???

 

[anupmathur]

... These Ni-Mh are not a good substitute for Li-ion because you may need 8 Ni-Mh to substitute one small Li-ion. Just imagine the weight! There is more chances of one of the eight failing that can affect the power of entire lot.
...

Two things here:
1) Lithium ion batteries have poorer energy density than Ni-MH. The Ni-MH battery can store more energy and will be smaller in size compared to an equivalent Li-ion battery. However, the Li-ion battery will weigh much less, nearly half.
2) One failed battery will severely degrade the performance of a bank only if they are all in series. Usually the effect will not be severe because the batteries are used in a series/parallel combination.

This is called a ???

You don't need to guess; it will be written clearly on the battery pack!