Callous and horrific behaviour of Indian tourists. This time Chandra Taal campsite

jjamwal

Active Member
I have posted this in one group on facebook and I thought it should receive as wide coverage as possible. I hope it is allowed and that this is the right section for it.

Jokes aside, I normally don’t care if the tourists are just ignorant or well meaning naive people. But a vast majority of Indian tourists are the worst people a beautiful place can have. Over the years, a number of amazing places in many corners across India have turned in to concrete jungles full of rubbish, plastic and various kind of annoying touristy dumpyards. When I first visited Lahaul Spiti in 2011, there was only 2, maybe 3 campsites near Chandrataal and the whole place was mostly clean and pristine. Now there are probably a dozen people setting up camps with dozens of tents in each and there is rubbish and shit everywhere. There are some regulations and it seems like that they are never implemented. When I visited in 2015, I kept awake for most of the night due to some retards playing loud stupid music for most of nights, shouting, singing after getting drunk and driving in mud.

It was even worse in 2017. Campsite owners had brought excavators to dig pits and had even dug up hills, which is illegal. Instead of disposing of trash properly, all the waste plastic, ceramic was just being dumped in pits and covered up. Toilets were just connected to hastily dug open pits covered with plastic sheets and whole place stank. Everyone likes to use bottled water, soft drinks etc and all the plastic bottles, snacks packaging etc was just being thrown carelessly everywhere. Tourists are stupid and camp owners will just bury the rubbish instead of disposing properly, just to save a hundred rupees every month. At best, they’d just gather the rubbish and burn it. Instead of a scenic campsite in wilderness, it now looks like a stinking refugee slum.

It is not even like these campsite owners are well meaning people with no facilities. A majority of them just care about making money in anyway possible. Dozens of vehicles ply on this route and it’s just takes a little work and money to gather this trash and send it away. But it’s done once in a blue moon, if at all. They are also not immune to lying to tourists and fraud. I met 2 foreigner tourists who were mislead in to staying in to one campsite after the owner lied to them about route, facilities provided and they were stuck there with no option than to wait till they could get transport.


This how garbage is being disposed off. By burying in shallow pits.




Another pit used to bury garbage, mostly non bio-degradable




Uncontrolled movement of vehicles everywhere. Campsite owners digging up hills




Lots of plastic and other waste like this in water sources for the campsites.


Trash like this comprising of food packaging, clothing, cans, alcohol bottles all around campsite

Local shepherds bitterly complained how tourists scare away their animals, destroy vegetation and don’t stop their activities even after dark. Additionally, the animals will eat up plastic and get sick, just like it happens in cities. Most of campsite owners use water from some nearby streams and even those had all type of waste in them. Earlier, the annoying tourist in these kind of places would be the one playing some dumb punjabi, bollywood bjohpuri type song on a mobile phone. There are still quite a few of them, but now there are a lot more of pretentious instagram snapchat type of crowd playing hipster songs on portable speakers which is even more disturbing to people looking for a quite place to relax and enjoy nature.

Link to full post: Another rant against tourists
 

Yogesh Sarkar

Administrator
Thanks for raising this. It is a burning issue in every tourist place and now spreading to far off places like spiti as well.
We dont deserve this beautiful nature. :(
Spiti is going to get screwed up more royally than Ladakh ever could be. Already places like Chitkul, Kalpa, Prasher are being swarmed by hoteliers and travel agents, Spiti is beginning to see a similar and I guess, worse boom.
 

jjamwal

Active Member
This is another must read article about Goa. Click on link to read full:
The Ugly Indian Tourist



A FINGER EMERGES at the window of a bright pink and green tourist bus. This is the heart of Goa, the road that connects Miramar beach at the confluence of the Mandovi River and the Arabian Sea to Dona Paula, among the state’s most expensive residential areas. The sun is gleaming down. Under the tarred road, as its sides reveal, lies a rusty red. A little away, the sea is gently thrashing the sand of Miramar beach. The bus is stationary. People are moving to and fro, in cars, on bikes and on foot. And then, this limp finger at the back of that bus suddenly comes alive, and from it sprouts a long jet of liquid. The camera zooms in. And, as the video grab that went viral online shows, it isn’t a finger at all. It is a penis, urinating onto a busy street.


Vijay Sardesai, Goa’s minister of town and country planning, says the video made him seethe with rage. He has seen many instances of bad tourist behaviour, but this was a new low. “These people, these people,” Sardesai says, “if they are not the scum, what are they?”

Indians are travelling like never before, thanks to rising income levels, growing aspirations to see new destinations (or perhaps be seen there on social media), and a fast-expanding industry of enablers. But it has also given the boor his moment in the sun, the obnoxious fellow with uncouth attitudes, petty sense of entitlement and outrageous demands. Yes, the one you see crowding the aisle even before the aircraft has come to a stop, holding cabin bags packed with free onboard cutlery and earphones, elbows pointed at anyone who tries to march ahead, and once out, the one using his grey hair to demand a wheelchair and an attendant to breeze through immigration even though he’s perfectly capable of doing so without the privilege.


and

On Calangute beach, however, the sights are different. There is a large Indian man stripped down to his Y-fronts. Around him emerge more of his gang, some of them bare-chested and others in axiomatic t-shirts (‘If you are hot, I am single’). A little away, waist-deep in water, two drunk men holding beer bottles swing their hips to an inaudible song. On the shore, some men seem to be mustering the courage to walk up to an apparent foreigner with a request for a selfie. A few Indian men accompanying women hold their hands tightly, as if in fear for their security. Nearby, a woman changes an infant’s diapers and leaves the refuse on the sand. Most of the beach is littered with garbage. There are plastic packets and bottles, some of them broken into shards, strewn all over. All signs of behaviour much too common to attract public reproach.

Drishti Marine, a private firm that has a contract for providing lifeguard services and keeping Goa’s beaches clean, claims to have collected some 1,070 tonnes of garbage from the state’s coast over the period of a year until December 17th, 2017.​
 

smoothwanderer

Well-Known Member
its the same here in god's own country kerala. the tourist areas are already garbage dumps. there is unbridled construction and development of new natures marvels with scant regards for natures protection. i am witness to a place very near to where i live - Vayalapra near payangadi. the natural flow of a small river has been blocked and destruction of surrounding hillocks. crowds descend into this small village and it has become a garbage dump with no facility for disposal of garbage. every one is happy as money is rolling in.
 

skysat2005

Super User
When the swacch bharat call comes from the highest level of the government, it says everything about India and Indians.

Open the Rohtang tunnel and then you see the entire Lahaul and Spiti going Shimla way of concretisation and mad tourism.
Welcome to India!
 

rrjohn

New Member
I know this is an old post but I just came across it and My God! It hurt my heart to read that some tourists (I won't say all - I travel and do it responsibly) have stooped down to this level. I was shocked at what you said was happening in Lahaul Spiti, and then I came across your post on Goa. I've seen my share of uncouth tourists and, mind you, they aren't as naive as we may think so. Most of them know too well what they're doing is wrong and do it anyway. And you know what's worse? Many tourists who do this kind of thing are Indians! The same people would pay a big price if they did this in a foreign country that doesn't tolerate this type of behavior. Can it possibly get any worse than this? Is there a way to change this behavior? Like levy huge fines for littering, maybe? We have to start somewhere....
 
This type of Effort is also going on at places !

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Indians are also doing this now after getting aware !
Do your share !
Make own group and serve other places where such activities are not common now !
 
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Indians are also doing this now after getting aware !
Do your share !
Make own group and serve other places where such activities are not common now !


  • MAY 25, 2018
Second Kheerganga Cleaning campaign April 2018
So once again showcasing the hard work of my team in past three days ( kheerganga trek ). I am proud to say that Almost 5000 plastic bottles were collected and given for recycling. Good news is locals have started taking part in it and installed dustbins along the way for the first time. There is a lot to be done but one step at a time. Thank you all for joining us without you nothing is possible. Keep participating to make Himalayas a better place.
Healing Himalayas Foundation is a team of believers in ground action. A lot can change through consistent cleaning campaigns.
We have done the same and will continue to do so. Picking up garbage is very basic and it’s the basic which we all have forgotten. We are here to remind this through ground action. Himalayas are the most resourceful part of our country and we need to protect them.





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  • NOVEMBER 18, 2018
Prashar Lake Cleaning Campaign
Prashar rishi lake cleaning campaign wherein we were 32 volunteers collected almost 75 bags full of non biodegradable waste mostly glass bottles and single use plastic. Another one of the most holiest place turned into a party zone. Although most of us admire the tranquility and splendor of Himalayas, yet we conveniently give a blind eye to the responsibility passed on to us. Yes, responsibility..! The responsibility of protecting, nurturing and safely handing over the natural heritage to generations that will follow.

The responsibility to treat the mountains as our own abode. However, we are failing at this and how! Dumping garbage, littering and polluting the water bodies as well. To say the least we are turning these regions into trash cans. In the pretext of development and promoting tourism we are disturbing the sanctity of the mountains. Hence, there is a dire need to promote responsible tourism.
Healing Himalayas Foundation has taken this responsibility to clear the mess accumulated on the foothills and neighboring areas of Himalayas. We have been actively carrying out campaigns to clean the garbage dumped in the mountain areas from several years. Apart from promoting cleanliness the organization is also educating locals and tourists about waste management.



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