Corona Virus Covid 19

citymonk

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Good job by United staff. No one forces Americans to do Covid-19 tests.
Maybe they thought to keep away from India with tsunami like situation in Delhi right now. People are dying im Hospitals without oxygen and Hospitals are asking covid patients to bring their own oxygen, medicines and even beds. Maybe Biden can help as Indian system is Collapsing.

 

Big Daddy

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Neither airliner nor Biden can do anything on flight attendent issue. The airline flight attendants are unionized and the union is not going to allow this blatant invasion of privacy. India can have laws but flight attendants have rights and unions are out there to protect those rights.

US does not use Astra Zeneca vaccine. I think that is European vaccine (Oxford), but it had some issues and some countries in Europe had stopped using it. US does have surplus vaccines and I think Janssen (Johnson and Johnson) might be suitable for Indian conditions as it is one shot vaccine and it does not have very stringent cold storage requirements.

Earlier in this thread I had predicted that India will have a lot of deaths because of lack of capacity as cases increase. This does not mean that the virus is deadly but Indian healthcare system will allow people to die due to lack of resources & capacity.
 
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Big Daddy

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While I am not entirely knowledgeable but there was something along the line of patents that prevented distribution of US vaccines in India. Maybe that is why people are talking about Astra Zeneca. America will help but Indians expect the world to follow Indian rules in everything they do. Indian culture of free everything needs to change. India is not longer a poor country that other countries are going to give free aid.
 

Big Daddy

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Here is the reason why US companies did not supply Covid-19 to India. Like flight attendents, irrational Indian rules are to be blamed. India wanted US vaccine manufacturer to conduct a study in India before India will allow US vaccines. I am sure regulator wanted bribes so that they can give US companies a waiver. Americans will not pay bribes.

Pfizer drops India vaccine application after regulator seeks local trial

Pfizer drops India vaccine application after regulator seeks local trial
By Krishna N. Das
3 Min Read

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Pfizer Inc said on Friday it had withdrawn an application for emergency-use authorisation of its COVID-19 vaccine in India, after failing to meet the drug regulator’s demand for a local safety and immunogenicity study.


A vial and sryinge are seen in front of a displayed Pfizer and Biontech logo in this illustration taken January 11, 2021. REUTERS/Dado Ruvic/Illustration/File Photo
The decision means the vaccine will not be available for sale in the world’s two most populous countries, India and China, in the near future. Both countries are running their immunisation campaigns using other products.

Unlike other companies conducting small studies in India for foreign-developed vaccines, Pfizer had sought an exception citing approvals it had received elsewhere based on trials done in countries such as the United States and Germany.

Indian health officials say they generally ask for so-called bridging trials to determine if a vaccine is safe and generates an immune response in its citizens. There are, however, provisions under India’s rules to waive such trials in certain conditions.


The U.S. company, which was the first drugmaker to seek emergency approval in India for its vaccine developed with Germany’s BioNTech, made the withdrawal decision after a meeting with India’s Central Drugs Standard Control Organisation (CDSCO) on Wednesday.

The drug regulator said on its website its experts did not recommend the vaccine because of side effects reported abroad were still being investigated. It also said Pfizer had not proposed any plan to generate safety and immunogenicity data in India.

“Based on the deliberations at the meeting and our understanding of additional information that the regulator may need, the company has decided to withdraw its application at this time,” Pfizer said in a statement.


“Pfizer will continue to engage with the authority and re-submit its approval request with additional information as it becomes available in the near future.”

Reuters was the first to break the news.

Pfizer had sought authorisation for its vaccine in India late last year, but the government in January approved two much cheaper shots - one from Oxford University/AstraZeneca and another developed in India by Bharat Biotech with the Indian Council of Medical Research.

Both companies had applied for approval of their vaccines after Pfizer, and their trials are ongoing in India. Local company Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories Ltd is running trials for Russia’s Sputnik V vaccine, which is expected to be approved this month or next.
 

citymonk

Super User
America will help but Indians expect the world to follow Indian rules in everything they do.
America will be looser if it will not help India now. This is what Indian Minister has warned to both USA and Germany.
I think Indian Government now wants to wash their hands from responsibility of arranging ample oxygen on time for critical patients, by blaming US during current
covid crisis in India.

 

citymonk

Super User
Here is the reason why US companies did not supply Covid-19 to India. Like flight attendents, irrational Indian rules are to be blamed.
Anyway after this attitude problem from US, India is planning to go atamnirbhar in producing the Vaccine on it's own.

 

Big Daddy

Super User
This is petty news. India cannot do it on its own. If Indian government is smart then it should get help from the USA. If India tries the atmanirbhar way then it will take 8 years to immunize everyone or get herd immunity. Besides, one vaccine is not enough because immunity lasts only for 6 months. I will take another dose after 6 months for immunity next year.
 

citymonk

Super User
Besides, one vaccine is not enough because immunity lasts only for 6 months. I will take another dose after 6 months for immunity next year.
And Dr. Fauci seems to be saying now that vaccine is useless. Is this true that he belives that now or this is just a doctored video.

 
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