How has your life changed in Covid-19 crisis?

Big Daddy

Super User
Many governments aren’t revealing real numbers, but it’s worth looking at this John Hopkins University Corona Virus Mortality rate chart. Belgium, Italy, Spain, a England, France all which have very independent monitoring bodies show around 15% mortality.

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These are the scams of the western world. John Hopkins gets over 1 billion in research funding so they will always propagate lies to divert government money to useless research. Just look at Dr. Fauchi. He will keep saying that this is a serious virus. The reality is that this is not a pandemic. 500K deaths with 80% of deaths in age group over 65 over 6 months really is not a big deal. The reality is probably 100 million people are really infected, but people are not getting tested so it is only when someone gets admitted they get tested for coronavirus. By keeping detection rates low, death rates are inflated. If you look at the statistics here: Coronavirus Update (Live): 13,035,942 Cases and 571,571 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer then only 1% of cases are serious and 99% in mild condition. The real death rate is likely less than 1%. In fact, in June 2020 the Center for Disease Control estimated death rate at 0.2% (Fact check: CDC's estimates COVID-19 death rate around 0.26%, doesn't confirm it). The deaths are decreasing in US since that time.

The mortality rate is a performance metric for hospitals. Different hospitals can have different mortality rates depending on the resources they have. A hospital with low beds and low ventillators will have high mortality rate and vice versa assuming all other things to be equal.
 
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Theloststory

Well-Known Member
I like your confidence and optimism against peer reviewed scientists.

Just curious, are you stepping out with masks?
 

Big Daddy

Super User
I like your confidence and optimism against peer reviewed scientists.

Just curious, are you stepping out with masks?
I am a scientist myself will over 150 publications so I know this research game pretty well. I know what is typically hidden from the public and why. Besides, here in the US, this thing is going on for 4 months and both people and the stock market have found out the reality of this joke. In March my doctor said it is to a big deal and we will have to live with the virus. In time that is coming out to be true. America is open so this virus is not going away and America's death rate has fallen by over 80% from its peak as more and more people are getting detected. In media, it has become a fashion for reporters to say I have Coronavirus. I think the whole Amitabh family is getting into this to revive their careers.
 

Big Daddy

Super User
So this Fauch guy. He lies and fights with President Trump. Why? Not because the virus is real, but because he can go and write a book about his relationship with Trump and make some money during the election year. I think it is fair to say that lying is an American value except when Russia does it then it is interference. So, hypocrisy is another American value.
White House takes aim at Fauci as he disagrees with Trump on virus
White House takes aim at Fauci as he disagrees with Trump on virus
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By Kristen Holmes and Kaitlan Collins, CNN

Updated 9:46 AM ET, Mon July 13, 2020




Washington (CNN)The White House is making a concerted effort to discredit Dr. Anthony Fauci as he becomes increasingly vocal about his concerns over reopening the country amid a national surge in coronavirus cases. The moves to undercut Fauci come just days after he gave an unvarnished look at his relationship with President Donald Trump, including that they have not spoken in weeks.
The tension between the two men -- who are no longer speaking, CNN reported last week -- has grown publicly as they have responded to one another through interviews and statements. But recent moves by the White House to publicly diminish the nation's top infectious disease expert amounts to a significant escalation as it seeks to divert attention from the government's failure to contain the coronavirus and instead push Trump's call to reopen the country. That effort continued Monday morning, when the President retweeted a baseless claim by game show host Chuck Woolery that "everyone is lying" about the coronavirus -- including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
In a statement Saturday, a White House official told CNN that "several White House officials are concerned about the number of times Dr. Fauci has been wrong on things." The official went on to provide a lengthy list of examples, citing Fauci's comments early in the pandemic and linking to past interviews.
These bullet points, which resembled opposition research on a political opponent, included Fauci downplaying the virus early on and a quote from March when Fauci said, "People should not be walking around with masks," among other comments. Not included were previous statements from the surgeon general urging people not to buy masks or an acknowledgment of the President's own false claims and misstatements about the virus.


Dangerous hotspot underscores one of the worst political calls in history

Dangerous hotspot underscores one of the worst political calls in history

Fauci did not return a request for comment by CNN. But he has at times openly disagreed with Trump in a series of recent newspaper and radio interviews.
In particular, a recent interview with the Financial Times in which Fauci disclosed that he has not briefed the President in weeks prompted the White House to distribute the list of Fauci statements, an aide familiar with the matter said. Among other things, Fauci disputed Trump's claim that "99%" of coronavirus cases in the United States were "totally harmless" -- saying that was "obviously not the case" -- and drew a connection between his insistence on "speaking the truth at all times" to his noticeably diminished television appearances.
Fauci's 'good press' a source of irritation for Trump
Fauci, who has worked under six US presidents from both parties and was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008, has emerged as the most visible public health advocate during the pandemic and surveys consistently find that he is more trusted than Trump. He's also emerged as something of a pop culture icon over the past few months, from being impersonated by Brad Pitt on "Saturday Night Live" to appearing on Instagram live chats about coronavirus with celebrities such as NBA star Steph Curry.
A person familiar with the situation acknowledged that Fauci has been appearing on television less frequently because Trump is annoyed by his public statements. Though Trump was already miffed by Fauci's television appearances early on, the White House has sought to downplay tension between the two for several months. The press shop stopped approving Fauci's television appearances, believing it would help alleviate the situation, though they continued to allow him to give interviews with print outlets.
Another person familiar has said the rare in-person meetings between Trump and Fauci are not awkward and don't involve raised voices, but Trump has complained about Fauci privately. Sources say part of that irritation is over the "good press" Fauci has received.
Trump's irritation with Fauci has also, at times, been encouraged by Peter Navarro, Trump's trade adviser who has repeatedly blamed Fauci for doubting the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. Navarro once told Fauci he would be personally responsible if it was later shown that hydroxychloroquine worked to treat coronavirus, despite multiple studies questioning its use.
One senior administration official told CNN that some officials within the White House do not trust Fauci. According to the source, those officials think Fauci doesn't have the best interest of the President, pointing to some of Fauci's interviews. Other administration officials have told CNN that while they have disagreements with Fauci's methods, they don't doubt his motives, and that his only concern was public health.
In an interview on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday, Adm. Brett Giroir, a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said there is "open discourse" within the team.
"I respect Dr. Fauci a lot, but Dr. Fauci is not 100% right and he also doesn't necessarily -- and he admits that -- have the whole national interest in mind. He looks at it from a very narrow public health point of view," Giroir said.
Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at Health and Human Services Michael Caputo said Sunday there was no White House-versus-the scientists narrative.
"We have great faith in the capacity of all of our scientists and doctors on the coronavirus taskforce to impart necessary public health information. People like Admiral (Brett) Giroir, Surgeon General (Jerome) Adams and others are carrying these messages very effectively," Caputo said in the statement, although he did not directly answer questions about Fauci.
Fauci is scheduled to be in the West Wing Monday for meetings.
Trump publicly criticizes Fauci
Trump and Fauci not speaking as coronavirus pandemic worsens

Trump and Fauci not speaking as coronavirus pandemic worsens

Trump -- who in April retweeted a message calling for Fauci to be fired, though he later downplayed the significance of the message when asked -- has recently intensified his public criticism of Fauci in recent weeks.
"Dr. Fauci is a nice man, but he's made a lot of mistakes," Trump said last week, undermining the public health expert whom Americans say in polls they trust more than the President.
In recent interviews, he openly questioned the advice he'd received from Fauci at the start of the outbreak.
"I think we are in a good place. I disagree with him," Trump said in an interview Tuesday when questioned about Fauci's assertion the US is still "knee-deep in the first wave" of the pandemic.
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, a California Democrat, said Sunday evening that any effort by the White House to sideline or discredit Fauci is "just atrocious."
Schiff told CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room" that such a move "is so characteristic of Donald Trump. He can't stand the fact that the American people trust Dr. Fauci and they don't trust Donald Trump -- and so he has to tear him down."
"We need people more than ever to speak truth to power, to be able to level with the American people about what we're facing with this pandemic, how to get it under control, how to protect ourselves and our families," Schiff continued. "That's what Dr. Fauci has been trying to do and by sidelining him the President is once again interfering with an effective response to this pandemic."
Kathleen Sebelius, who served as secretary of Health and Human Services under former President Barack Obama, told CNN efforts to discredit Fauci and other scientists are "potentially very, very dangerous" as the US and other countries work toward a coronavirus vaccine.
"I think people want to know from the scientists that the vaccine is safe, that it is effective, that it will not do more harm than good," she told Blitzer on "The Situation Room."
"And if the public scientists have been discredited, if the President says 'don't believe them, you can't listen to them, they're often wrong,' we have then undermined a national vaccination campaign which is an essential step to bringing this horrible period to an end."
 

Big Daddy

Super User
Speaking of how my life changed? I was so confident that this virus was a scam that I borrowed $50,000 and invested in Nasdaq (QQQ) and Health Care Index (IYH) in March. I made nearly $20,000 in profit. I may end up paying $2,000 in loan interest but it was a good decision where I made $18,000 from the money I did not have. My friend got scared and he sold stocks in March because he thought that market will be suppressed for years.
 

adsatinder

Plz Help Himabuj (Amit Tyagi) in Corona Fighting
Speaking of how my life changed? I was so confident that this virus was a scam that I borrowed $50,000 and invested in Nasdaq (QQQ) and Health Care Index (IYH) in March. I made nearly $20,000 in profit. I may end up paying $2,000 in loan interest but it was a good decision where I made $18,000 from the money I did not have. My friend got scared and he sold stocks in March because he thought that market will be suppressed for years.
Good Earning at Risk !

But which companies were best in this scenario ??
 

foadbear

Pirates Skulls and Bones
Speaking of how my life changed? I was so confident that this virus was a scam that I borrowed $50,000 and invested in Nasdaq (QQQ) and Health Care Index (IYH) in March. I made nearly $20,000 in profit. I may end up paying $2,000 in loan interest but it was a good decision where I made $18,000 from the money I did not have. My friend got scared and he sold stocks in March because he thought that market will be suppressed for years.
Well, I too invest in markets and am sitting on a decent profit but not because I think the virus is a scam. I invest with discipline. Good thing you milked the profits. Markets were bound to open. I want to but fitness equipment since i cant go to gym now. Even the fitness equipments manufactured by Decathlon is made in China. Markets were bound to open.


I have offered insights on research papers on cybersecurity for my friends and I know that unless "Turnitin" red flags plagiarism to an un-acceptable level, people go on publishing papers with proper references accredited to the publications / papers that they have used in their research paper. . These times have seen so many studies by scientists , every day there is a new study. Still, it's too far fetched to think that the virus is a scam.

In India, lakhs of migrant workers lost their jobs. People who are working at the frontlines , have not seen their families for months, fearing that the virus might infect their family members. One of my relatives is stuck in Dubai, with. waiting of more than 2,50,000, till their turn comes to board a flight to India.

I am not a scientist but I do read, and not just news from one nation, I try to keep myself updated from the news of at least english speaking countries. If the whole world is selling the scam called the "Novel Coronavirus", maybe its time to float alternate theories on the internet that the virus is a scam and get people back on the streets.

Imagine a company selling bulletproof vests. everyone knows the vest is bulletproof. But if given a chance to put bullets in the Kevlar jacket, everyone would want a go at it , to test, if the jacket is bulletproof or not. I dont think if asked to go in a room a full of COVID +ve patients without masks, anyone would want to go inside to prove that the virus is a scam.

Still, it's your opinion and I still think, the virus is here to stay. And so do the ramifications that come with it.

Maybe the viral infection works in the same way as a snake bite, people die of fear. But that doesn't means a snake bite is welcomed.

One of my friend's wife was sent an email by one Fiedelity INvestment Services, for transferring the ESOP stocks, since the friend died of the virus. She is still in shock since she could not even see her husband in the US when he died.

So, no, I really don't think the virus is a scam and it is here to stay.
 

Big Daddy

Super User
Good Earning at Risk !

But which companies were best in this scenario ??
It was not a risk at all. I had twice that amount in gold so I figured I could take the loan. I was looking for growth stocks that pay as little dividend as possible because my tax bills get higher. When companies do not pay much dividends then your tax bills stay tamed. I was not planning on selling so capital gains was not an issue.

So Technology and Healthcare fit the bill as growth stocks and I went for them. Both are index funds. I am not into individual companies anymore because I do not have time for research into individual companies. My buy was driven by opportunity and tax efficiency.
 

Big Daddy

Super User
Virus is hear to stay because it was always here. So it is a scam but consequences are real. If America did not give attention to this virus no one would have noticed or even cared. This BS will keep going on until the US elections are over.
 

adsatinder

Plz Help Himabuj (Amit Tyagi) in Corona Fighting
It was not a risk at all. I had twice that amount in gold so I figured I could take the loan. I was looking for growth stocks that pay as little dividend as possible because my tax bills get higher. When companies do not pay much dividends then your tax bills stay tamed. I was not planning on selling so capital gains was not an issue.

So Technology and Healthcare fit the bill as growth stocks and I went for them. Both are index funds. I am not into individual companies anymore because I do not have time for research into individual companies. My buy was driven by opportunity and tax efficiency.
I am only interested in trend setters and which lines are getting benefit from all this BS Threat.
Not interested in each and every individual company.
Only some will get good business due to all this as this was Seen in March only
All nations were taken away by the threat in March.
 
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