OLX Part 3. Tata Zest AMT D.

jeetcp

Mediocre me
Hi Deepam,
I agree whole heartedly. I have had many maruti's in the family. Best part of Maruti is that you get OEM copy of spare parts at dirt cheap price and local Mechanics could address them easily. But that story will change with Nexa.

Yes, though GC is just 165 (or 168mm) for the diesel, it did not scrap yet even with 5 on board.
While the interior has premium feel, nothing looks fragile. It has typical Tata sturdiness. I have not observed short cuts in panels which some companies do, in the name of Weight saving, while the truth is that they are trying to save cost.

Congrats Jeet and nice write up.
Zest is really good car the best in the segment. However people have mindset TATA na na...
So NO NO
Maruti .... jai.
I have driven Zest XTA for a short duration and lowed it. Beauty is it did not scrape big speed breakers.
My wife was in love with the Harman Music system.

Another thing on OLX was, Car search took 2 months. Really long I say. You dont have to spend so much energy when buying new car.

But once finalized, payment, handover, paperwork etc was done in 2 days and another 3 days later, I had new RC in hand. Much less hassle compared to buying a new car.
I dont have to Run-In. Do not need to fit any accessory, the humble seller got everything done. Kept car in best shape possible.

Stepneeeyyy was never used yet. I guess I should be proud of the fact :p :) .
 

Divyang

Member
So last 3 years have been busy for us from car exchange perspective.


Read OLX Part1 here:
https://www.bcmtouring.com/forums/threads/buying-a-pre-loved-sx4-petrol-my-olx-experience.60061/


Where is Part2? I am yet to post a review. Well, This small Picture can tell what the OLX part 2 was. make a guess.
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Coming to Part3:
We just bought a Tata Zest XMA Diesel AMT Dark Gray. At the time of purchase she was 23.5 months old and did 36400 KM.
Have driven her 1000KM and so far I am very impressed with the car. =D>

Background:
3.5 years back, 28 July 2014, We bought a 6.5 year driven SX4 petrol (Link above).
Last year we bought a Nano XTA AMT. And this year Zest. All from OLX.
SX4 has served us 35K km since then and has taken us some remote places while keeping us comfortable. Had to spend good amount of time on keeping her in top shape. CNG kept cost low. Happy Happy.


The Estilo, our first car, was doing fine, did 73K km and good car for city drives, except it had no soul. Neither me nor wife wanted to take her out. So One fine day, I posted her on OLX and at 9:45PM, we sold her. She went to someone we knew, I real gentleman and I am so happy that she is in good hands.

The Nano is in home town, driven by my Dad. Thanks to nano AMT, Daddy learnt driving at the age of 67 years. The person I bought the Nano from, again was a thorough gentleman. Something I cannot describe in words, the humbleness has to be experienced.

So far, 2 cars bought, 1 sold. I had to replace Estilo with a practical, reliable, safe and comfortable option. Here came Zest.
Again, I bought it from an IT company employee and such a nice gentleman. I would not hesitate asking for help or vice-versa.

As a Policy: I do not sell to or buy from Dealers. Dealing with Individuals is so rewarding, pleasing and I made good friends, every time.
Can I say, I did not deal the car, I dealt the Person. I hardly took test drive of Zest, or looked into Service History, because I was sold on the truthfulness of the seller.


Some pictures. Anyone?

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About Zest:
Exterior Looks: To each his own. I am OK with it. Many people do not like the Egg-Shell shape. I find it overall better than Desire at least.

Interiors: For me those work great. Black interiors with highlights of Cream/White. Material quality is wonderful. Only sour point is zero bottle holders. Thankfully, Previous owner had installed Accessory for 2 bottle holders.

ICE: HARMAN connect music system is superb. 4+4 speakers and quality that puts expensive sedans to shame. The XTA model comes with large screen and Integrated camera etc which are missing in XMA.

Engine: Fiat 1.3 Multijet 90PS diesel with Variable Geometry Turbo. Enough is said about this engine and it works the same way in this car too. Coming from Tata, overall fitment of Engine, Insulation firewall, Engine plastic Cover, ECU placement etc is done very nicely. I dont see any corners cut which is generally the case in Maruti implementation sometimes.

Gearbox: Yeah.. The AMT is the highlight of the car. Unit is from "magneti marelli", same company that sells to Maruti (Celerio, Dezire etc) and Renault (Kwid). But this is a better version of the unit.

Kwid AMT has no Gear lever, you cannot put it in manual mode. It is outright dangerous while overtaking if you ask me. 80% times while overtaking, the AMT will upshift and you are out of power band. Renault saves 10-15 thousand ruppees by providing cheaper AMT since it shares ECU from Car. FYI, Duster AMT is an expensive one.

Maruti's implementation if AMT is same as of Tata except that Tata does give you a "Sports Mode" button. A must if you ask me. On Zest I use Sport mode almost everytime I overtake a fast vehicle and it is so easy to Switch this mode On and Off. It does not take even a second. Why Maruti does not provide sport mode? Cost may be.
Dezire AMT does have an upside. From standstill, it is more eager to Inch-Forward, while Zest waits longer for accelerator input. Difference is like half second, but that matters a lot.

More on AMT later..........

Build quality: Sheet metal strength is good. Though, nowhere near Punto, Lenia, Ecosport, but way better than current market of Dezires, Balenos, etc. Crash rating wise 2016 Zest had great results, 2015 was not bad either.
Car does feel solid from Doors, bonnet, Dash, Fender, underbody etc. I could put this as strong as Fiesta classic or Figo.
At 1170KG , being 4 meter, it is a heavy car.


Tyres: Came with Bridgestone 185/60R15 steel. Grip is great. Car has 165mm of GC and does not scrap anywhere under load. Though I am inclines to put 195/60R15 next year. That will increase GC by 8mm and Width by 10mm. I dont know if the height will make car look bad or will cause body roll. I have used 2 size bigger tyres in Estilo and results were awesome.
Lets see.

More Photos: ??

AMT in AUTO mode, present position - Neutral.
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AMT in Manual mode.

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Very informative. Thanks.

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jeetcp

Mediocre me
Yes, Zest got 90HP MJD. The petrol was in-house.
Tiago, Nexon have in-house Diesels.

Congrsts for the new ride. Lovely review :)
Does Tata get MJD? I thought they started making their own engines with this new series of vehicles.
I am happy with the fact that I have MJD because i like taking my car to remote locations and part availability is very important for me.
 

jeetcp

Mediocre me
AMT owners:
Question:
Would it be OK to take her to remote hills, like Spiti etc. Question is Purely from the AMT stand point.
Using AMT on very steep inclines can be tricky, because it has a mind of its own and it tries to simulate "Half-Clutch" situation when you use less throttle.
And on steep incline, upshift from 1st to 2nd gear can be very confusion for AMT under loaded condition.


I personally think that car would do just fine with Me in driving seat. But I have faced my SX4 manual to be struggling at times at such high elevation. Not sure how MJD diesel+AMT would behave.
 

zack2137

Leh'd and how!
AMT owners:
Question:
Would it be OK to take her to remote hills, like Spiti etc. Question is Purely from the AMT stand point.
Using AMT on very steep inclines can be tricky, because it has a mind of its own and it tries to simulate "Half-Clutch" situation when you use less throttle.
And on steep incline, upshift from 1st to 2nd gear can be very confusion for AMT under loaded condition.


I personally think that car would do just fine with Me in driving seat. But I have faced my SX4 manual to be struggling at times at such high elevation. Not sure how MJD diesel+AMT would behave.
I considered this question in detail before buying my vehicle. For "mind of its own" thing, you can always drive it in the manual mode and hold a gear. I think the car won't upshift until it hits the red line which should be more than sufficient for the MJD. Enough Brezzas have done this stretch with the same engine. On auto (mine is a torque converter), it doesn't half clutch if power isn't enough. The engine starts lagging and you kind of get a feeling that you're losing power. But it downshifts if RPM falls under 1000 and then it holds the gear proportionately longer on peak torque (doesn't half clutch).

The bigger problem is with stop and go situations, or if you end up parking at an angle and taking off from there. Celerio owners first realized it because it did not have hill start assist and at some point required brake and accelerator input at the same time. If you've hill start assist, the first gear should've enough torque to move you ahead on most stretches in Spiti. Even if the angle is insane, hill start will allow you enough time to move power from the engine without putting you in a dangerous position.

The problems you should be thinking about are ground clearance and losing traction in slush :)
 
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