raj_5004
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because there is a huge difference between the ex-showroom and on-road prices, even in mahindra's case.
why dont you just enquire with your friend who bought the safari. best is, call up a TATA showroom.
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why dont you just enquire with your friend who bought the safari. best is, call up a TATA showroom.
torque
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They ought to be and they are... because most of the time they spend is in the urban jungle.
I am surprised Tata 207 doesnt climbs vis-a-vis Bolero camper???? Lugginng heavy loads and reliability is the strong oint of the direct injection 3.0 litre engine in 207 and the light truck 407. Heck, this engine even humbled japanese when launched in 1980's and was the reason why 407 was and is such a huge success even to this day!
Tata's used to offer 3 lakh kilometer warranty on the engine alone... and it would go on much longer.
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If I'm stranded in some remote high altitude place with my family, my concern then is not who's going to pay! I'm much more concerned about immediate survival!
Those sort of incidents are what we always hope to avoid/preclude!
Hence this unwavering priority to reliability.
torque
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I will if I have the money.
Yes but some of my friends own it and are pretty darn happy with their purchase.
I always have this thing for deserving underdogs... I drive a Palio very much aganist the popular choices like the Santro or a Wagon-R.
P.S. I am not trying to imply that Safari is a pinnacle of reliability. While it is not super reliable, its not as unreliable as suggested.
For that matter Torque, more reliable than the Scorpio is the Bolero.
And the Gypsy remains King.
BTW, have your friends been making long trips in their Safaris?
If yes, I'd certainly want to learn from their experiences.
And I hope you are also in touch with the maintenence issues that they have.
One of the things I have not liked about TASS is that they are too often out of stock of parts required. I have seen delays of anything from a couple of days to 2 months! The latter was for a power window component. The vehicle lay 'parked' at home for that entire period with one window open.
And the Gypsy remains King.
BTW, have your friends been making long trips in their Safaris?
If yes, I'd certainly want to learn from their experiences.
And I hope you are also in touch with the maintenence issues that they have.
One of the things I have not liked about TASS is that they are too often out of stock of parts required. I have seen delays of anything from a couple of days to 2 months! The latter was for a power window component. The vehicle lay 'parked' at home for that entire period with one window open.
torque
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See the trip logs of Steeriod on team-bhp. Besides another friend Suman's safari has already done over 35k's with in a year without any major problems. Both of them use their Safari's as they ought to be, i.e to never brake for a pothole, take offbeaten tracks where sedan would shudder even at the mere sight and both of them faced niggling issues in the early part of their ownership which were resolved to satisfaction by TASS.BTW, have your friends been making long trips in their Safaris?
If yes, I'd certainly want to learn from their experiences.
And I hope you are also in touch with the maintenence issues that they have.
One of the things I have not liked about TASS is that they are too often out of stock of parts required. I have seen delays of anything from a couple of days to 2 months! The latter was for a power window component. The vehicle lay 'parked' at home for that entire period with one window open.
By the way I must mention, all the warranty jobs were carried out by TASS without a fuss or needing to make a hue or cry. Suman's Safari clutch had hardened and all it needed was a clutch bleed job but TASS replaced the clutch altogether @ 30k's kms, both the front discs were changed due to brake judder. It pays if you have good relations with the service manager.
I must also mention all the emails sent to Tata Customer Service concerning shoddy service were taken up and rectified. In Nitin's case (another Safari owner and a friend) after his email to TATA Customer Care, he was given an Indica with a driver for commuting till they rectified all the problems he was having with Safari, the whole front seat was replaced beacuse a small noise that came sometimes, now which manufacturer's service center would do that.
Yes, the initial ownership period could and should have been better but that was partly taken care off my TASS's eagerness to attend to all the problem and in some cases provide future upgrades proactively.
As for Tata they surely need to improve the quality control and some of the plastics in the Safari are downright dowdy... even worse compared to Amby's of yesteryears.
Didn't I ask YOU whether you have been reading the posts on that very forum?
Strange that you are now asking the same of me!
What I read of the relevant posts at TBHP only added to my resolve to stay away from Tata vehicles.
Why should I have to endure those uncertain first few weeks/ months(??) when I have alternatives that suit MY requirements?
And, somehow, I have never been a speed freak, so 170 kmph is LOW on my list of attributes that I seek in my ride.
And anyway, why do you feel so persistently that you must convert others?
Car makers offer a mind boggling variety of choices, for the simple reason that each person has a different set of 'goodies' that he is looking for.
Let everyone choose what thrills them most.
Be happy with what you've bought.
Cheers.
torque
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When?
As you said TEHO!
Besides thats not the point really. Safari owners on tbhp have been pretty forthright in sharing whatever problems they have had with their cars, minor or major while I dont see that with any of the Scorpio owners and its hard to believe that on a forum with 30k's members no even single one of them had a problem wtih his/her Scorpio.
While I also give in to the fact that Scorpio has lesser problems than Safari, saying Safari is completely and utterly unreliable and cannot be relied upon is taking things a bit too far.
That was just for information.
I am not paid by Tata neither do I have anything aganist Mahindra. I am against blanket statements which tell half the story. A forum should have complete and accurate information and i am all for it.
In the end everything boils down to this only. Cheers!Let everyone choose what thrills them most.
Be happy with what you've bought.
Cheers.
raj_5004
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yes torque, they spend a lot of time in the city, so features are important. but what i meant was, features are not the only priorities in an SUV.
about the TATA 207, i still stand by what i said. the drivers who were given these new 207s used to drive campers and they told me that its not pretty good on inclines. yes, the 407 is a huge success, but i think its because of its reliability (maybe!) or cheap running. but from my experience, the camper gives better fuel efficiency. also, even though the 207 engine maybe reliable, the rest of the car (pick-up) isnt....