Scorpio VLX mHawk

[raj_5004]

I will if I have the money.


Yes but some of my friends own it and are pretty darn happy with their purchase.


I always have this thing for deserving underdogs... I drive a Palio very much aganist the popular choices like the Santro or a Wagon-R.

P.S. I am not trying to imply that Safari is a pinnacle of reliability. While it is not super reliable, its not as unreliable as suggested.

dont mind my friend, but you can judge a car the best when you own it. i am not suspecting your credibilities. but when we are talking about reliability and maintainence, the owner knows his car the most.
yes, i am not saying the safari is the MOST unreliable car in india. but when compared to its competitiors (for me, its innova and scorpio), it does lag in this department.

 

[raj_5004]

I will also let out a secret. Safari 3.0 Dicor is restricted to 2500 rpm dead in 5th gear by the CPU. No matter what you do, it just wont budge. You can derestrict it and see the needle rise to 170 and even 180 kmph. Dangerous but it can be done.

a safari will never go till 180 kmph even if its "derestricted"...
many cars have their rpm restricted in top gear. if you notice, many cars record their top speeds in 4th gear and in 5th gear, it slows down a bit. so its not a new thing...

 

[raj_5004]

When?


As you said TEHO!
Besides thats not the point really. Safari owners on tbhp have been pretty forthright in sharing whatever problems they have had with their cars, minor or major while I dont see that with any of the Scorpio owners and its hard to believe that on a forum with 30k's members no even single one of them had a problem wtih his/her Scorpio.
While I also give in to the fact that Scorpio has lesser problems than Safari, saying Safari is completely and utterly unreliable and cannot be relied upon is taking things a bit too far.


That was just for information.


I am not paid by Tata neither do I have anything aganist Mahindra. I am against blanket statements which tell half the story. A forum should have complete and accurate information and i am all for it.


In the end everything boils down to this only. Cheers!

well, nobody has forbidden 30k scorpio owners to come on t-bhp with their problems. it must be because its a fairly reliable car.
well, even i wont say safari is utterly unreliable. but yes, u asked me what problems i faced in both my safaris, i had it listed down for you. what would you say about that?

 

[anupmathur]

.. Safari owners on tbhp have been pretty forthright in sharing whatever problems they have had with their cars, minor or major while I dont see that with any of the Scorpio owners and its hard to believe that on a forum with 30k's members no even single one of them had a problem wtih his/her Scorpio.

Well, it would be ludicrous to say that M&M pays them to conceal information!
So perhaps, hard as it may be, you'll need to accept the absence of fault-reports as an indication of SOMETHING.
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[anupmathur]

While still waiting, this is what I just found while 'channel surfing'!

OMG, take a look at this: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/technical-stuff/39627-strange-humming-noise-my-safari.html#post829046

I don't want these HASSELS!! (Though I don't even know which 'truck' the man owns)! Safari? How old?

They NEED NEED NEED each other to help out with the unending "ISSUES"!! Minor squiggles no doubt! TASS will NOT be able to handle this, which is why they rely on each other to sort it all out!
THIS pain, (that is what it is for me), is not there if you buy an Innova or the Scorpio.

 

[Deeps]

many cars have their rpm restricted in top gear. if you notice, many cars record their top speeds in 4th gear and in 5th gear, it slows down a bit. so its not a new thing...

Many cars are not "restricted" in 5th gear. They reach their top speed in 4th gear because in 5th the engine is at a lower rpm than in 4th gear and it doesnt produce enough BHP to act against the wind resistance. What Torque mentioned is that the Safari is electronically restricted to 2500 rpm in 5th.

 

[Deeps]

Well, it would be ludicrous to say that M&M pays them to conceal information!
So perhaps, hard as it may be, you'll need to accept the absence of fault-reports as an indication of SOMETHING.
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What? could be that the owners are just too lazy to post their views and reviews on the scorpio.

What? could be that the owners are less honest in publically expressing the problems with their vehicle...maybe to justify their purchase.

What? does not mean that Scorpio is any less or any more reliable than the Safari.

And I dont think Torque is trying to "convert" anyone and neither is Akshaye "scared" of anything. Torque is just stating his opinions for the safari just as you state it in favour of the Scorpio.

 

[torque]

a safari will never go till 180 kmph even if its "derestricted"...
many cars have their rpm restricted in top gear. if you notice, many cars record their top speeds in 4th gear and in 5th gear, it slows down a bit. so its not a new thing...

Ever heard of overdrive.... 5th gear in most cars is an overdrive which is there for relaxed cruising and not for top speed and hence the top speed in 4th gear.

 

[torque]

well, nobody has forbidden 30k scorpio owners to come on t-bhp with their problems. it must be because its a fairly reliable car.
well, even i wont say safari is utterly unreliable. but yes, u asked me what problems i faced in both my safaris, i had it listed down for you. what would you say about that?

I am surprised why you took your Safari to the same service center when they werent able to rectify the problem?
Why didnt you write to the customer serivce department of shoddy serivce? I am yet to come across a guy who has sent them a genuine concerns regarding servicing issues and it hasnt been addressed.
And I am most surprised by the fact that they changed clutch in your safari 3 times and still werent able to solve the problem? No company will just change the clutch just like that and that too 3 times!
I have 3 example in front of me and apart from initial issues they have been as reliable as any car in the market even with all the abuse they have been put through.

 

[raj_5004]

What? could be that the owners are just too lazy to post their views and reviews on the scorpio.

What? could be that the owners are less honest in publically expressing the problems with their vehicle...maybe to justify their purchase.

What? does not mean that Scorpio is any less or any more reliable than the Safari.

And I dont think Torque is trying to "convert" anyone and neither is Akshaye "scared" of anything. Torque is just stating his opinions for the safari just as you state it in favour of the Scorpio.

just saying that all 30k owners of scorpio are lazy or less honest is ridiculous!
i have been in forums where i have discussed about problems in both the safari and scorpio. but the threads about scorpio has been far less. and its not because the owners are dishonest, it is because the car rarely gives any major trouble.