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India orders Uber and rival Ola to electrify 40% of fleets by 2026

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India is doubling down on its push to replace gasoline and diesel vehicles on its streets with environmentally friendly electric cars. The government plans to order ride-hailing firms such as Uber and Ola, which operate hundreds of thousands of cars in the nation, to convert 40% of their fleets to electric by April 2026, Reuters reported today.

As part of the push, Uber, Ola and other companies would need to show signs of progress toward the goal by the end of next year, the report claimed. It stated that the ride-hailing giants must convert 2.5% of their fleet of cars by 2021, 5% by 2022 and 10% by 2023. A source familiar with the matter corroborated Reuters’ findings to TechCrunch.

The move comes as New Delhi looks to cut reliance on oil imports and bring down air pollution to abide by its commitment as part of the 2015 Paris climate change treaty. In recent years, China has also ramped up similar efforts with even tougher EV sales targets matched with generous state-funded subsidies for consumers buying green vehicles.

India’s challenge is tougher because electric vehicles still account for a tiny portion of all the cars that are sold. In the year that ended in March, only 3,600 electric vehicles were sold in the country, compared to 3.3 million diesel and gasoline cars.
At an event last year, India’s prime minister Narendra Modi urged industrialists and global business leaders to work with the government on creating a “new mobility ecosystem” that is in “sync with nature.” He added, “my vision for the future of mobility in India is based on 7Cs: common, connected, convenient, congestion-free, charged, clean, and cutting-edge.”
India’s electric push will spell new frustration for Uber, which is already struggling to fight back against Ola, its local rival and the market leader in ride-hailing space in the country. Ola, which is also backed by SoftBank, has started working on electric vehicles.
It conducted a first of its kind trial in Nagpur three years ago and clocked millions of kilometers through electric vehicles. The company said last year that it aims to launch 10,000 three-wheeled electric vehicles in 12 months and one million electric vehicles by 2021.

Uber, which recently attempted and failed to sell its food delivery business Uber Eats to local rivals Swiggy and Zomato, has appeared to dial down its focus on India since going public. The company currently has no programs around electric vehicles in India, other than a limited pilot project it announced with electric scooter maker Yulu last month.
Beyond testing, Ola has also committed hard capital to EVs. It spun off its electric mobility unit and raised $58 million in initial capital from third-party investors. That sum increased in March when Ola raised $300 million from Hyundai and Kia to collaborate on building mobility solutions and electric vehicles.

Ola and Uber did not immediately respond to requests for comment on the Reuters report.



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Who Killed the Electric Car?
Who Killed The Electric Car cover.jpg
DVD cover
Directed byChris Paine
Produced byJessie Deeter
Written byChris Paine
StarringTom Hanks (from a recording)
Mel Gibson
Chelsea Sexton
Ralph Nader
Joseph J. Romm
Phyllis Diller
Narrated byMartin Sheen
Music byMichael Brook
CinematographyThaddeus Wadleigh
Edited byMichael Kovalenko
Chris A. Peterson
Production
company
Electric Entertainment
Distributed bySony Pictures Classics
Release dateSundance Film Festival
January 23, 2006
United States
June 28, 2006
United Kingdom
August 4, 2006
Australia
November 2, 2006
Running time92 minutes
CountryUnited States
LanguageEnglish
Box office$1,764,304 (worldwide)[1]


Who Killed the Electric Car? is a 2006 documentary film that explores the creation, limited commercialization, and subsequent destruction of the battery electric vehicle in the United States, specifically the General Motors EV1 of the mid-1990s. The film explores the roles of automobile manufacturers, the oil industry, the federal government of the United States, the California government, batteries, hydrogen vehicles, and consumers in limiting the development and adoption of this technology.
After a premiere at the Sundance Film Festival, it was released theatrically by Sony Pictures Classics in June 2006 and then on DVD by Sony Pictures Home Entertainment on November 14, 2006.
During an interview with CBS News, director Chris Paine announced that he had started a new documentary about electric cars with a working title of Who Saved the Electric Car?,[2] later renamed Revenge of the Electric Car, which had its world premiere at the 2011 Tribeca Film Festival on Earth Day, April 22, 2011.[3]
Contents
Topics addressed[edit]
The film deals with the history of the electric car, its modern development, and commercialization. The film focuses primarily on the General Motors EV1, which was made available for lease mainly in Southern California, after the California Air Resources Board (CARB) passed the zero-emissions vehicle (ZEV) mandate in 1990 which required the seven major automobile suppliers in the United States to offer electric vehicles in order to continue sales of their gasoline powered vehicles in California. Nearly 5000 electric cars were designed and manufactured by Chrysler, the Ford Motor Company, General Motors (GM), Honda, Nissan, and Toyota; and then later destroyed or donated to museums and educational institutions. Also discussed are the implications of the events depicted for air pollution, oil dependency, Middle East politics, and global warming.
The film details the California Air Resources Board's reversal of the mandate after relentless pressure and suits from automobile manufacturers, continual pressure from the oil industry, orchestrated hype over a future hydrogen car, and finally the George W. Bush administration.
A portion of the film details GM's efforts to demonstrate to California that there was no consumer demand for their product, and then to take back every EV1 and destroy them. A few were disabled and given to museums and universities, but almost all were found to have been crushed. GM never responded to the EV drivers' offer to pay the residual lease value; $1.9 million was offered for the remaining 78 cars in Burbank, California before they were crushed. Several activists, including actresses Alexandra Paul and Colette Divine, were arrested in the protest that attempted to block the GM car carriers taking the remaining EV1s off to be crushed.
The film explores some of the motives that may have pushed the auto and oil industries to kill off the electric car. Wally Rippel offers, for example, that the oil companies were afraid of losing their monopoly on transportation fuel over the coming decades; while the auto companies feared short-term costs for EV development and long-term revenue loss because EVs require little maintenance and no tuneups. Others explained the killing differently. GM spokesman Dave Barthmuss argued it was lack of consumer interest due to the maximum range of 80–100 miles per charge, and the relatively high price.
The film also showed the failed attempts by electric car enthusiasts trying to combat auto industry moves, and save the surviving vehicles. Towards the end of the film, a deactivated EV1 car #99 is found in the garage of Petersen Automotive Museum, with former EV sales representative, Chelsea Sexton, invited for a visit.
The film also explores the future of automobile technologies including a deeply critical look at hydrogen vehicles, an upbeat discussion of plug-in hybrids, and examples of other developing EV technologies such as the Tesla Roadster (2008), released on the market two years after the film.
Interviews[edit]
The film features interviews with celebrities who drove the electric car, such as Ed Begley Jr., Mel Gibson, Tom Hanks, Peter Horton, and Alexandra Paul. It also features interviews with a selection of prominent American political figures including Jim Boyd, S. David Freeman, Frank Gaffney, Alan C. Lloyd (Chairman of the California Air Resources Board), Alan Lowenthal, and Ralph Nader. Included are interviews with Edward H. Murphy (representative of the American Petroleum Institute), and James Woolsey (former Director of Central Intelligence), as well as news footage from the development, launch and marketing of EVs.
The film also features interviews with some of the engineers and technicians who led the development of modern electric vehicles and related technologies, such as Wally Rippel, Chelsea Sexton, Alec Brooks, Alan Cocconi, Paul MacCready, Stan and Iris M. Ovshinsky, and other experts such as Joseph J. Romm (author of Hell and High Water and The Hype about Hydrogen). Romm gives a presentation intended to show that the government's "hydrogen car initiative" is a bad policy choice and a distraction that is delaying the exploitation of more promising technologies, such as electric and hybrid cars which could reduce greenhouse gas emissions and increase America's energy security. Also featured in the film are spokespersons for the automakers, such as GM's Dave Barthmuss, a vocal opponent of the film and the EV1, and Bill Reinert from Toyota.
Production and release[edit]
The film was written and directed by Chris Paine, and produced by Jessie Deeter, and executive produced by Tavin Marin Titus, Richard D. Titus of Plinyminor and Dean Devlin, Kearie Peak, Mark Roskin, and Rachel Olshan of Electric Entertainment.
The film features a film score composed by Michael Brook. It also features music by Joe Walsh, DJ Harry and Meeky Rosie. Jeff Steele, Kathy Weiss, Natalie Artin and Alex Gibney were also part of the producing team.
The documentary was featured at the Sundance, San Francisco, Tribeca, Los Angeles, Berlin, Deauville, and Wild and Scenic Environmental film festivals and was released in theaters worldwide in June 2006.
The suspects[edit]

The film features the symbolic EV1 funeral held at Hollywood Forever Cemetery as a protest to General Motors' decision to terminate all EV1 leases and crush the electric cars.
The later portion of the film is organized around the following hypothesized culprits in the downfall of the electric car:
American consumers[edit]
While few American consumers never heard of the electric cars in California, those who did were not necessarily critical mass for this new technology. Thanks to lower gas prices and infatuation with sport utility vehicles (SUVs), few people sought out this new technology. While some were fans (as chronicled in the film), many more needed time to consider the advantages and disadvantages of these new cars; whether freedom from oil or with the perceived limitations of a city car with a 100-mile range. Although allegations are made about consumers by industry representatives in the film, perhaps explaining the film's "guilty" verdict, the actual consumers interviewed in the film were either unaware that an electric car was ever available to try, or dismayed that they could no longer obtain one.
Batteries[edit]
In a bit of an unexpected turn, the film's sole "not-guilty" suspect is batteries, one of the chief culprits if one were to ask the oil or auto industries. At the time GM's EV1 came to market, it came with a lead acid battery with a range of 60 miles. The film suggests that since the average driving distance of Americans in a day is 30 miles or less, for 90% of Americans, electric cars would work as a daily commute car or second car.
The second generation EV1 (and those released by Honda, Toyota, and others) from 1998 to the end of the program, featured nickel-metal-hydride or even lithium-ion (Nissan) batteries with a range of 100 or more miles. The film documents that the company which had supplied batteries for EV1, Ovonics, had been suppressed from announcing improved batteries, with double the range, lest CARB be convinced that batteries were improving. Later, General Motors sold the supplier's majority control share to the Chevron Corporation and Cobasys.
As part of the not-guilty verdict, the famed engineer Alan Cocconi explains that with laptop computer lithium ion batteries, the EV1 could have been upgraded to a range of 300 miles per charge. He makes this point in front of his T-Zero prototype, the car that inspired the Tesla Roadster (2008).
Oil companies[edit]
The oil industry, through its major lobby group the Western States Petroleum Association, is brought to task for financing campaigns to kill utility efforts to build public car charging stations. Through astroturfing groups like "Californians Against Utility Abuse" they posed as consumers instead of the industry interests they actually represented.
Mobil and other oil companies are also shown to be advertising directly against electric cars in national publications, even when electric cars seem to have little to do with their core business. At the end of the film, Chevron bought patents and controlling interest in Ovonics, the advanced battery company featured in the film, ostensibly to prevent modern NiMH batteries from being used in non-hybrid electric cars.
The documentary also refers to manipulation of oil prices by overseas suppliers in the 1980s as an example of the industry working to kill competition and keep customers from moving toward alternatives to oil.
Car companies[edit]

The film features the "Don't Crush Campaign" protest

Crushed EV1s in a junk yard are shown in the film
With GM as its primary example, the film documents that car makers engaged in both positive and negative marketing of the electric car as its intentions toward the car and California legislation changed. In earlier days, GM ran Super Bowl commercials produced by Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) for the EV1. In later days it ran "award winning" doomsday-style advertising featuring the EV1 and ran customer surveys which emphasized drawbacks to electronic vehicle technology which were not actually present in the EV1.[4] (As a side note, CARB officials were quoted claiming that they removed their zero emission vehicle quotas in part because they gave weight to such surveys purportedly showing no demand existing for the EV1s.) Other charges raised on GM included sabotaging their own product program, failing to produce cars to meet existing demand, and refusing to sell cars directly (it only leased them).
The film also describes the history of automaker efforts to destroy competing technologies, such as their destruction through front companies of public transit systems in the United States in the early 20th century. In addition to EV1, the film also depicted how Toyota RAV4 EV, and Honda EV Plus were being cancelled by their respective car companies. The crushing of Honda EV Plus only gained attention after appearing quite by accident on an episode of PBS's California's Gold with Huell Howser.
In an interview with retired GM board member Tom Everhart, the film points out that GM killed the EV1 to focus on more immediately profitable enterprises such as its Hummer and truck brands, instead of preparing for future challenges. Ralph Nader, in a brief appearance, points out that auto makers usually only respond to government regulation when it comes to important advances whether seat belts, airbags, catalytic converters, mileage requirements or, by implication, hybrid/electric cars. The film suggests Toyota supported the production of Toyota Prius hybrid in part as a response to Bill Clinton's Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles and other U.S. Government pressure that was later dropped.
Though GM cited cost as a deterrent to continuing with the EV1, the film interviewed critics contending that the cost of batteries and electric vehicles would have been reduced significantly if mass production began, due to economies of scale. There is also discussion about electric cars threatening dealer profits since they have so few service requirements—no tuneups, no oil changes, and less frequent brake jobs because of regenerative braking.
U.S. government[edit]
While not overtly political, the film documents that the federal government of the United States under the Presidency of George W. Bush joined the auto-industry suit against California in 2002. This pushed California to abandon its ZEV mandate regulation. The film notes that Bush's chief of staff Andrew Card had recently been head of the American Automobile Manufacturers Alliance in California and then joined the White House with Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, and other federal officials who were former executives or board members of oil and auto companies. By failing to increase mileage standards in a meaningful way since the 1970s and now interfering in California, the federal government had again served short-term industry interests at the expense of long-range leadership on issues of oil dependency and cleaner cars.
California Air Resources Board[edit]
In 2003, the California Air Resources Board (CARB), headed by Democrat Alan Lloyd, finally caved to industry pressure and drastically scaled back the ZEV mandate. CARB had previously defended the regulation for more than 12 years.
While championing CARB's efforts on behalf of California's with its 1990 mandate (and other regulations over the years), the film suggests Lloyd may have had a conflict of interest, as the director of the California Fuel Cell Partnership. The ZEV change allowed a marginal amount of hydrogen fuel cell cars to be produced in the future, versus the immediate continued growth of its electric car requirement. Footage shot in the meetings showed Lloyd shutting down battery electric car proponents while giving the car makers all the time they wanted to make their points.
Hydrogen fuel cell[edit]
The hydrogen fuel cell was presented by the film as an alternative that distracts attention from the real and immediate potential of electric vehicles to an unlikely future possibility embraced by auto makers, oil companies and a pro-business administration in order to buy time and profits for the status quo. The film corroborates the claim that hydrogen vehicles are a mere distraction by stating that "A fuel cell car powered by hydrogen made with electricity uses three to four times more energy than a car powered by batteries" and by interviewing Joseph J. Romm, the author of The Hype about Hydrogen, who lists five problems he sees with hydrogen vehicles: High cost, limits on driving range due to current materials, high costs of hydrogen fuel, the need for entirely new fueling compounds, and competition from other technologies in the marketplace, such as hybrids.
The price of Hydrogen has since come down to $4–6/kg (without carbon sequestering) due to reduction in the price of Natural Gas as a feedstock for steam reforming owing to the proliferation of hydraulic fracturing of shales.[5] A kilo of Hydrogen has the same energy yield as a gallon of gasoline although production currently creates 12.5 kg CO2, 39% more than the 8.91 kg CO2 from a gasoline gallon.[5]
Response from General Motors[edit]
General Motors (GM) responded in a 2006 blog post titled "Who Ignored the Facts About the Electric Car?"[6] written by Dave Barthmuss of GM's communications department. In his June 15, 2006 post—published 13 days before the film was released in the U.S.—Barthmuss claims not to have seen the film, but believes "there may be some information that the movie did not tell its viewers." He repeats GM's claims that, "despite the substantial investment of money and the enthusiastic fervor of a relatively small number of EV1 drivers — including the filmmaker — the EV1 proved far from a viable commercial success."
He submits it is "good news for electric car enthusiasts" that electric vehicle technology since the EV1 was still being used. It was used in two-mode hybrid, plug-in hybrid, and fuel cell vehicle programs.
Barthmuss also cites "GM's leadership" in flex-fuel vehicles development, hydrogen fuel cell technology, and their new "active fuel management" system which improve fuel economy, as reasons they feel they are "doing more than any other automaker to address the issues of oil dependence, fuel economy and emissions from vehicles."
Responding to the film's harsh criticisms for discontinuing the EV1, Barthmuss outlines GM's reasons for doing so, implying that GM did so due to inadequate support from parts suppliers, as well as poor consumer demand despite "significant sums (spent) on marketing and incentives to develop a mass market for it." Barthmuss claimed he personally regretted the way the decision not to sell the EV1s was handled, but stated it was because GM would no longer be able to repair it or "guarantee it could be operated safely over the long term," with lack of available parts making "future repair and safety of the vehicles difficult to nearly impossible." He also claimed that "no other major automotive manufacturer is producing a pure electric vehicle for use on public roads and highways."
In March 2009, however, outgoing CEO of GM Rick Wagoner said the biggest mistake he ever made as chief executive was killing the EV1 car and failing to direct more resources to electrics and hybrids after such an early lead in this technology.[7] GM has since championed its electric-car expertise as a key factor in development of its 2010 Chevrolet Volt, Chevy Spark EV, and the Chevrolet Bolt.
Reception[edit]
On review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes, the film has an 89% approval rating based on 105 reviews, with an average rating of 7.19/10.[8] Metacritic, another review collator, reported a positive rating of 70, based on 28 reviews polled.[9]
Manohla Dargis of The New York Times wrote, "It's a story Mr. Paine tells with bite. In 1996 a Los Angeles newspaper reported that 'the air board grew doubtful about the willingness of consumers to accept the cars, which carry steep price tags and have a limited travel range.' Mr. Paine pushes beyond this ostensibly disinterested report, suggesting that one reason the board might have grown doubtful was because its chairman at the time, Alan C. Lloyd, had joined the California Fuel Cell Partnership."[10]
Michael Rechtshaffen of The Hollywood Reporter noted Alan Lloyd's conflict of interest in the film.[11]
Pete Vonder Haar of Film Threat commented, "Boasting a particularly articulate and colorful bunch of noncelebrity talking heads, including former president Jimmy Carter, energy adviser S. David Freeman and Bill Reinert, the straight-shooting national manager of advanced technologies for Toyota who doesn't exactly sing the praises of the much-touted hydrogen fuel cell, the lively film maintains its challenging pace."[12]
Matt Coker of OC Weekly stated, "Like most documentaries, 'Who Killed the Electric Car?' works best when it sticks to the facts. Showing us the details about the California Air Resources Board caving in to the automakers and repealing their 1990 Zero Emissions Mandate, for example, is much more effective than coverage of some goofy mock funeral for the EV1 with Ed Begley Jr. providing the eulogy. As most of the lazy media, prodded by the shameless oil men in the White House, spin their wheels over false 'solutions' like hybrids and biodiesel and hydrogen and ethanol and ANWR, Korthof and his all-electric army continue to boost EV technology." Coker also interviewed EV activist Doug Korthof, who stated, "We don't deserve the catastrophe in Iraq, and the two madmen arguing over oil supply lines seem intent on martyrdom for Iraq in a widening war. With EV, we need not get involved in seizing and defending the oil supplies of the Mideast; nor need we maintain fleets, bomb and incarcerate people we can't stand, give foreign aid to oily dictators, and so on. It's not anything to laugh about."[13]
The film won the 2006 MountainFilm in Telluride (Colorado, USA) Special Jury Prize, the Canberra International Film Festival Audience Award, and also nominated for Best Documentary in the 2006 Environmental Media Awards, Best Documentary in Writers Guild of America, 2007 Broadcast Film Critics Association Best Documentary Feature. In 2008 socially conscious musician Tha truth released a song that summarized the film on the CD Tha People's Music.[citation needed]
See also[edit]
References[edit]
  1. ^ "Who Killed the Electric Car? (2006)". Box Office Mojo. Retrieved September 8, 2009.
  2. ^ David Pogue (2007-09-16). "Could The Electric Car Save Us?". CBSNews. Retrieved 2008-05-21. Chris Paine is excited; in fact, he's making a sequel to his movie
  3. ^ "Revenge of the Electric Car: World Premiere Announced". Revenge of the Electric Car website. 2011-03-14. Archived from the original on 2011-03-17. Retrieved 2011-03-16.
  4. ^ Welch, David (August 14, 2000). "The Eco-Cars". BusinessWeek. Retrieved March 16, 2010.
  5. ^ Jump up to:a b "Archived copy". Archived from the original on 2014-04-13. Retrieved 2012-05-05.
  6. ^ Who Ignored the Facts About the Electric Car? blog post copy in PDF format
  7. ^ Neil, Dan. "The Rick Wagoner vehicles: Hits and misses", LA Times, March 31, 2009
  8. ^ Who Killed the Electric Car?[/I]], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotten_Tomatoes']Rotten Tomatoes, accessed December 28, 2010
  9. ^ MetaCritic review
  10. ^ Dargis, Manohla. "'Who Killed the Electric Car?': Some Big Reasons the Electric Car Can't Cross the Road", The New York Times, June 28, 2006
  11. ^ Rechtshaffen, Michael. Hollywood Reporter Review, The Hollywood Reporter Archived July 10, 2006, at the Wayback Machine
  12. ^ Vonder Haar, Pete. "WHO KILLED THE ELECTRIC CAR?" Film Threat, January 25, 2006
  13. ^ Coker, Matt. "Baby You Can Still Drive My Electric Car", OC Weekly, May 16, 2006
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Documentary about GM killing of the electric car. It has been here since '96 but they killed it off. If you believe in conspiracy theories: here's one for ya.
 

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Who Killed The Electric Car?

Documentary about GM killing of the electric car. It has been here since '96 but they killed it off. If you believe in conspiracy theories: here's one for ya.
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this is not a conspiracy.... its the truth. its fact. and TESLA BROUGHT THEM BACK !

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ELECTRIC MOTORS ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES, plus they are simpler with less moving parts and easier to maintain. The reason Electric motors have not become the norm is simple. THE ELECTRIC STORAGE or batteries inventions have been SUPPRESSED by the Oil Cartels to keep electric vehicles from competing with Internal Combustion engines that use oil. As shown in the film, it was an Oil corporation that bought the new electric storage invention GM had stolen from its partner in the development of the EV1. HAVE YOU ASKED YOURSELF, WHY WOULD AN OIL COMPANY BUY A PATENTED INVENTION TO A BATTERY, AND NEVER USED IT? As soon as a new invention makes it a convenient use for an electric vehicle, the end of the oil based engine is done. As simple as that. Another electric storage device was developed recently by a Texas firm near Austin that as the patent states to be ten times lighter and smaller than a regular battery, but can be charged up to ten times more in only 5 minutes. A huge US weapons' manufacturer bought the company with our tax dollars, and disappeared the device!!! This is how a few scumbags prefer to destroy the planet's ecology so they can buy an extra private jet!! We're being enslaved by the 0.01% of the population who own more than the 99.9% together, and purchase our "elected" politicians in our corrupt political system.


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2019 I am here to see in comment section what experts have say about this

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We just bought an electric car. Not good for trips, but great around the area. And I love passing all the gas stations.

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GM should've never been given a bailout!


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"Renewable" because that electricity that comes out of those charging stations just MAGICALLY appears, and isn't created by coal, gas, or oil-powered power plants, or by nuclear reactors, right? Yeah, I love that electricity that is generated for free from unicorn farts. Pretty amazing stuff, that... ;-)


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They dont mention the batteries needed and how there blood minerals in this. You give up gas and waging wars for gas so instead of petroleum products we would start wars and exploit the congo and afghanistan for the minerals needed for the batteries


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It's laid out in front of you, plain and simple- The world puts profitability ahead of feasibility with our living standards and the guilty rule over us (ourselves included: haven't we ever forsaken mother nature for the want of motivation or more money?). Fighting it is what one must never stop no matter how tired you get. We are walking backwards into our doom, counting the money....nothing gets more depressing.


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If there was a true market to have electric cars that actually drive farther than 40 miles, the power grid could handle that many cars plugged in and it wasn't cheaper to operate a 40 mpg car than a Volt or a Leaf, the "fat fucking pigs" would just end up charging just as much to produce electricity as they charge for gasoline.


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So I guess we can ignore the fact that producing a electric car is far worse for the involvement than a normal car and that destroying a electric car is far worse for the environment than a normal gasoline car Operation cost? Hope you don't live in CA with the highest energy bills are in the country, where it cost just as much to operate as a 35 mpg car Also hope you don't want to drive across the state because they only get about 40 miles Saving money? Chevy Volt battery replacement almost 10K


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Yes i agree, but they those humans are minority!!!


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hahaha oh wow. I'm not even going to bother. Trying to educate you is a waste of time. You clearly know nothing at all about energy, save for whatever the oil companies have brainwashed you into thinking.

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Yes sir. It's not science fiction, it's science fact. The only people claiming it's not "viable" is the oil companies who want to maintain their monopoly on the energy industry.


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Sorry. Not going to hold your hand. Be a big kid and do it yourself.


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I hate to burst your little redneck bubble, but this documentary is far from being silly. Research the claims in the documentary yourself and you'll see. It's the only way you're going to realize the truth.


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Forget just 50 states of US,i need electric car here in thailand those co2 make my neighborhood dirty and it smell is terrible! Take that PTT!


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Oh my god! In which planet do you live? Make a small research and you'll find the effects of oil pollution. Do you remember BP oil spill (Google it)? See here dailydeadbirds. com and tell me how many animals died. The 20000 euros are not nothing because i am selling the energy that i produce to the electricity company so i earn money just from the sun.


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The problem with oil its not mining it and conversion it but the pollution that produced from it when gets burned. Global warming and many disease were due to that pollution. I never heard that someone die from renewable energy. And its not so expensive to produce electricity i have a 10Kw system on my roof which nowadays it costs about 20000 euros much less than buying electricity produced from oil. And windmills are placed very long away from residential areas and i found them kinda beautiful.


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Here, have another -1


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Trust me there are SOME people that are big mistake and everyone knows it. The problem is that those people control most of the biggest companies, so the chain is continued. I know it sounded to much ghoulish as i said it on my first comment, but when we see in frond of our eyes that everything could be easier and simplest while nobody does nothing... that can make you mad. What do you mean by saying "oil's not making anyone sick"?
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* So, we as intelligent and evolutionary beings need to avoid those deadly chemicals and find other ways to transfer our ass. Finally i want to say that passing from fuel to electric cars is evolution because electricity can produced with really really low cost from renewable power sources without affecting the environment.


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I'm nothing of both you said. I am absolutely healthy! As i can see from your other comments, i conjecture that you have misunderstood the term of technology. Technology means evolution. Gasoline, diesel, even GAS or any other fuel, are producing chemicals that are deadly for any living organism. *




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Sure they will. And the big oil gangster will somehow fiddle the prices of electricity so that it will be even more expensive than fossil fuel. And if you don't believe that; power prices have already increased by nearly 200% in the last three years here in Oz; with more and hefty rises to come. You don't believe these thugs are all green and fuzzy and are trying to find a way to save the planet do you?
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Will there ever be electric car usefull enough to replace modern combustion-powered car? You know, 800 km between 10minute refuellings and no limits on lights/heating/AC etc?



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We can drive around on Mars in an electric car for two years but can't do it here on planet greed......indeed!!!


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GMs electric car caused a nervous Japan to produce the hybrid car, and with a lithium ion battery pack install it can go 1600 miles on just one tank of gas. It’s affordable for the middle class, and if we all buy into it, our city smog problem will disappear overnight. For the upper classes there is the Tesla S model; zero to 60 in 4.5 sec with a range of 300 miles. It’s a great city executive car and will be my next purchase. Price starts at 50K. So I won’t get a corvette after all.

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you dont get it 100 trillion $>public opinion


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It's a no brainer who killed the electric car. But I like the end result, which is the hybrid car, the lithium battery packs, and flexible solar panels, and now you can get your ride customized so that you get to ride gas free. I won't buy a GM product. They sold out, and one in every four Californian can thank them for their lung related diseases. We all can make the difference
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the president should do something about it


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This is so true, only problem is, as long as the world keeps hugging these fosile fuels to run our economy, this world is never going to change, thank you ancestors, for letting this great thing happen to us :)


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"If you believe in conspiracy theories"... This documentary is FAR from being conspiratorial. It's called truth.


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There are already hybid buses with massive batteries. Works the same way as a hybrid car. Hydrogen takes far too much energy to extract with today's technology to make sense. Dont bother showing me ridiculous hydrogen kit scams you can buy online.



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you are just proving that every attempt at an electric car in the history has failed. The only way big oil buried them is by offering a much more practical source of energy - oil. We are only arriving now at a threshhold where oil is expensive enough and batteries cheap enough to compete against each other. Even 15 years ago with the EV1, electric was not a competitive solution but an overpriced nitche market. Conspiracy theorists practice absolutely no common sense.
 

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Research Labs are not big in India for EVs.
Only Govt funded research is going on like we see in some lines.
Defense Researchers may be doing something on battery Inventions that I have No Idea.

Combustion Vehicle industry is doing regular research as it is growing.
Engines are more refined now but to meet target of BSVI (BS6), engines are made lightweight.
It can't be repaired. Only change is possible. I have links that shows how Hyundai i10 engine fails with high revs / accelerator pressed in parking position.
LOL !

Now with Electric Vehicle supported by Govt is going to shatter progress made in combustion engines also.
America is not still able to make an efficient electric vehicle that is affordable and convenient to use that is yet to be commercially successful like combustion engines.
America started it in 1980s.
I clearly remember in case of California they talked big for Zero Emissions in different documentaries on TV and Print Media
Imagine 40 years of research is fail.
Blame it on America ?
Or
God ?
No Excuses by America yet ?
LOL !




Invention is not in hand of common man.
All I mean to say is Invention is not in hand of Man !
It all depends on Luck etc.
(if you are spiritual you can say in hand of Almighty) !

An Electric Vehicle is still not a Commercially Viable alternative for a common man.
Even E-Rickshaw walas are earning their daily Bread & Butter only for a small distance job only.
For distant places, buses are also plying on road.
Himachal Roadways is running Electric Buses for a reasonable distances only in hills.
These are Mini Buses only which are maximum 2 hatchback long.
 

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Himachal Roadways launches e-bus on Kullu-Manali-Rohtang Pass route

Our Bureau Hyderabad | Updated on January 10, 2018 Published on September 22, 2017



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Goldstone-BYD gets more orders
Goldstone Infratech Ltd has announced that its ‘zero emission’ electric bus has begun operating for Himachal Pradesh Transport Corporation.
The 25+1 seater Goldstone eBuzz K7 was flagged off by GS Bali, Himachal Pradesh Minister of Transport, at Kullu on the Kullu-Manali-Rohtang Pass route.


Successful trial runs

This bus has the distinction of successfully completing trials on steep gradients and at altitudes above 13,000 feet for the first time in the country.
Made by Hyderabad-based Goldstone Infratech Ltd, these electric vehicles have been certified by the Automotive Research Association of India (ARAI), after extensive testing. The electric buses are manufactured in a tie-up with Chinese firm BYD Auto Industry Co Ltd, which is the largest manufacturer of electric vehicles in the world.
Each bus can run over 200 km on a single charge and can be recharged in less than four hours because of its fast charging technology.
These buses use lithium ion phosphate battery, which ensures longer lifetime, better power density and is safe on account of chemical and thermal stability. Anand Swaroop, Chief Operating Officer, Goldstone Infratech Ltd, said: “We are sure these electric buses plying at such high altitude will become a benchmark for every State transport undertaking. “This will prompt faster adoption of electric public transport system in the country for of environment protection.”


Rising demand

In August this year, a 12-metre, low-floor AC electric bus from Goldstone-BYD successfully completed trials with the Chandigarh transport undertaking.
Goldstone-BYD also conducted trials of its electric buses in Delhi, Bengaluru, Hyderabad and Rajkot.
The company will supply 25 electric buses to the Himachal Pradesh Road Transport Corporation.
The company has also received order for six electric buses from Brihan Mumbai Electricity Supply and Transport Undertaking (BEST).
BYD Company Limited, parent of BYD Auto Industry Company Limited, is a listed outfit and rated among top 500 Chinese enterprises specialising in IT, automobile, new energy and light rail areas.

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India’s first electric bus commences commercial operations in Himachal Pradesh

The company would be supplying 25 electric buses to Himachal Pradesh Road Transport Corporation. The Company has also received order of 6 electric buses to Brihan Mumbai Electricity Supply and Transport Undertaking (BEST).


By: FE Online | Updated: September 24, 2017 3:22 PM


India's first electric bus to ply between Kullu-Manali-Rohtang in Himachal Pradesh.'s first electric bus to ply between Kullu-Manali-Rohtang in Himachal Pradesh.


India's first electric bus to ply between Kullu-Manali-Rohtang in Himachal Pradesh.


The next time you visit Manali or Rohtang pass you might want to ride on India’s first electric bus that has official made its commercial debut and is now available for public transport. Himachal Road ways has flagged off Goldstone’s electric bus that will travel between Kullu-Manalli-Rohtang Pass in Himachal Pradesh. Goldstone Infratech Limited popularly known as Goldinfra has developed a 25+1 seater Goldstone eBuzz K7 zero-emission electric bus and Himachal Pradesh Transport Corporation has begun the commercial services of the same. Goldinfra has also claims to have successfully completed the trials at a steep gradient and over 13,000 feet altitude for the first time in the country. This electric bus is completely Made in India by Goldstone Infratech and has been certified by ARAI after extensive testing at various levels at various facilities. The electric bus can travel for up to 200 kms sin a single charge. The company has conducted trials in Delhi, Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Himachal Pradesh, Chandigarh and Rajkot. Goldstone’s electric buses gets front and rear air-suspension to offer comfortable rides to the commuter. These Electric Buses are manufactured in tie-up with BYD Auto Industry,The electric bus can be recharged in less than 4 hours and supports fast charging technology. These buses use Lithium Iron Phosphate battery which ensure longer lifetime, better power density and is safe due to Chemical and thermal stability.
Anand Swaroop, Chief Operating Officer –Goldstone Infratech Ltd said, “Goldstone Infratech is proud to become India’s first company to run its ARAI certified Electric Buses on Indian Roads. We are committed to offer quality products to the country. We are sure that these electric Buses which have started serving thepassengers between Kullu-Manali-Rohtang pass at such a high altitude will become benchmark for everyState Transport Undertaking. This will surely augment faster adoption of much needed Electric Public Transport system in the country and further support the cause of environment protection.”
Earlier in August this year, the 12-meter low Floor AC electric bus from Goldstone-BYD successfully completed the trials with Chandigarh Transport Undertaking. The company would be supplying 25 electric buses to Himachal Pradesh Road Transport Corporation. The Company has also received order of 6 electric buses to Brihan Mumbai Electricity Supply and Transport Undertaking (BEST).
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Himachal Pradesh to buy 50 electric buses

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In all 50 electric buses will be purchased for Shimla town, 30 of which would be 9 metre-long while the rest will be 7 metres in length. The former are priced at ₹76.97 lakh

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The Himachal Pradesh government will soon purchase 30 electric buses to run on various routes in Shimla town, State Transport Minister Govind Singh Thakur said.
“These buses will not only provide comfortable travelling facility to the commuters but will also help in checking pollution levels. The purchase orders have already been given after all code formalities were fulfilled," he added.
Stating that the state government had followed the directions and norms of the central government, Thakur said the “quality buses" were being purchased at minimum rates.
In all 50 electric buses will be purchased for Shimla town with the cooperation of Union Heavy Industries and Public Enterprises Ministry, he said adding that orders had been given for 30 9 metre-long buses while the remaining 20 would be of 7 metres in length.
The cost of each nine-metre-long bus was ₹ 76.97 lakh, with a capacity of 31 seats. Thakur claimed similar buses were bought by the previous Congress government for ₹ 2 crore each.

“These buses would take only half-an-hour to fully charge, whereas the electric buses purchased earlier would take around five to six hours for full charge," he said.

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Shimla Gets Electric Bus Service, Himachal Pradesh CM Jai Ram Thakur Flags Off 11 HRTC Buses
The chief minister said that electric vehicles would also be introduced in other districts of the state in a phased manner.

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Updated: February 20, 2019, 10:18 AM IST



Chief Minister Jai Ram Thakur recently flagged off the electric bus service of the Himachal Road Transport Corporation (HRTC). Eleven buses were flagged off for local destinations on nine different routes from the State Secretariat here by Thakur.
He said the Centre would bear 90 per cent cost of the electric bus operations and the state will have to fund the rest. "The buses are being plied under the Faster Adoption and Manufacturing of Electric Vehicles (FAME) scheme of the Government of India in 90:10 ratio," Thakur said.



There would be no change in the fares, which would be the same as of those charged by HRTC taxis already operating within the Municipal Corporation limits of the town. As many as 50 buses have been provided to the state under the scheme.
These buses will operate from State Secretariat to Indira Gandhi Medical College and hospital (IGMC), Old Bus stand to HP Secretariat, Dhalli Tunnel to IGMC, Boileauganj to CTO, Old Bus Stand to CTO, Titukandi crossing to CTO, Navbahar to IGMC, Summer-hill to CTO.
The chief minister said that electric vehicles would also be introduced in other districts of the state in a phased manner. Education Minister Suresh Bhardwaj, Urban development Minister Sarveen Chaudhary, Agriculture Minister Ram Lal Markanda and Transport Minister Govind Singh were also present






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