ToyCar joins family -- Tata Tiago XZA ( Petrol, with AMT)

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    ToyCar joins family -- Tata Tiago XZA ( Petrol, with AMT)

    Last week, we brought another car in family.

    It's meant for my wife, so it had to be safe, comfortable and compact. The first parameter decided unanimously was that it had to be "Automatic". No gears & clutch business. Although she is comfortable with manual transmission on our other cars, but she wanted her exclusive car to be equipped with an AT.

    Budget was finalised at about INR 5,50,000 (+- 10%). We went through numerous test drives of Alto, Celerio, Tigor (no AMT, but still we loved this car ), Tiago, Grand i10, i20, Kwid, KUV100, etc. But with such a smallish budget (!), we zeroed in on Kwid 1L AMT. And then tried to squeeze ourselves for its Climber variant. But then good senses prevailed, and just few minutes before signing on our cheque, we chose to checkout Tiago AMT, again.

    The wafer thin sheet metal of Climber variant went against it and we moved out of Renault showroom.

    Surprisingly, Tata dealer welcomed us this time with much refined hospitality. :D
    After the flimsy built of Kwid, Tiago felt like a Humvee, if not a tank.

    We took another TD of Tiago AMT at our home on our known stretch, with keen eye to find the faults which can make us regret later. Apart from couple of negligible things, which are obvious in a Tata car, we were smiling at the end of TD.

    Dealer was not ready to give us 'any' benefit in cash or kind. We played dealer-against-dealer game to no avail.

    We immediately went to another showroom, and equipped with a more sharp attitude, we started negotiating with him. Fortunately, he agreed to our requests (suggestions ;) ).

    We booked the car, signed the cheque with initial amount. And the wait game started.
    XZA can take about 20-25 days, but we managed to get it within a week. Yes, in 6 days flat. Somehow we couldnot take the delivery on expected date due to some personal exigency. We took the delivery after a week's time.

    During the negotiations, we managed to save more than INR 31,000 for the final On-Road Delhi price.

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    Till now it has covered some 125 KMs only in last one week.

    Tiago feels slightly wider than my WagonR in front seats. Getting in and out of car is easy for elders as well. Seats are comfortable and airconditioning is also nice.

    Nothing significant was experienced from AC. Its as good as all other cars! With temperature hovering at 45-46 C in delhi, ACs are prone to deliver lesser than THE expectations. But yes, since ours is brand new car, it chilled entire cabin during night drives in no time. Many users have reported that AC is pathetic in Tiago. I also felt the same while coming out of showroom in peak afternoon. I was driving on default City mode. Couple of days later I noticed a sudden change in AC's behaviour when the car is driven in Sports mode!
    Tiago's AC perform much better in Manual and Sport modes.
    It seems the default setting of City mode is tuned in a way where AC is also less interfering in fuel efficiency. After spending a number of years with a CNG fed car, I drive Tiago XZA slowly on its default City mode for a KM or so in morning, before changing to Sport mode.

    Fuel efficiency on MID is 12.9KMPL with 110% AC. Didn't checked it by brim-to-brim method yet.
    Why 110%?
    ['Çoz we are spending few more minutes in car after every drive, checking its features and counting the cubby holes/slots/places where we can keep some stuff!]

    Stereo is fantastic at high volumes. Headlights are enough. Foglights are useless. Horn is adequate. Boot space is decent. Ground clearance is high enough for all normal speedbreakers and potholes, etc. Noise from a 3-pot Tata petrol engine is acceptable. No noise inside cabin.

    Light music, AC on full, blower on 1-2, no clutch/gear ... Nirvana! :)
     
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    As the number of KMs are increasing, FE is also increasing gradually. In both tripmeters, it is showing 13.2KMPL with exactly same usage pattern of spending 3-4 minutes in car (with AC kept ON) after the drive ends.
    When I took it out of showroom, I think it was showing 12.5KMPL.

    I am feeling it can give 13.5+ KMPL with my current usage pattern. And it'll increase to 15-16KMPL after initial 3 services in first year.
    My old WagonR is giving only 12-13KMPL with same parameters on petrol (CNG is not being used for last couple of years!).
     
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    Congratulations on your new kid Tiago in your family
    You really took right decision of skipping Renault Kwid
     
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    Thanks Deepam.
    Yes, after NCAP-2017 results for Indian cars, Kwid looks like a scary car! :eek:

    Although Tiago/Tigor are yet to be tested on same parameters by Global NCAP, I am slightly at peace coz we picked the variant with max safety features available. Keeping fingers crossed for Tiago/Tigor's results whenever it happens.
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    Another update:

    FE rose to 13.4kmpl on MID. It showed 13.5 for few minutes, and then settled back to 13.4kmpl.

    And faced a congestion on steeply inclined ramp out of our basement car parking. For a second I was like $%&#..., but a slight push of stick towards manual took care of everything. Crawled on that 50 meter ramp for 2 minutes, and most other cars were rolling back a good 3-4 meters before inching ahead on incline. I simply loved the convenience of AMT here, which when coupled with handbrake is pure bliss.
     
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    Congratulations .A good choice
     
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    First puncture! :D
    Rear right tyre picked a screw with metal washer and was dangling at the cusp of sidewall and main tread. I noticed it midway to my office while restarting from a brief stopover. It came out easily with my bare hands, and I pushed it back immediately as air started leaking out. And the moment it seated again in its cavity, air leakage stopped rightaway!! :p
     
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    Congrats SOTji.
    110% method is hilarious. Like it.

    Great choice. Coming from heart.
    I am in same boat, but no money means better half will have to deal with clutch for longer.
    For this budget, I dont see anything else in market which comes close.

    OT, met a person with Zest petrol turbo on CNG station. He says that CNG rocks on turbo petrol. Ha ha ha.
    Can enjoy sports mode on cheap fuel. I had a confused grinn.
     
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    Congrats on new addition in your family. Tata has improved by leaps & bounds in last 2 years not only in design but also in after sales services.
     
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    Thanks @SHEKHAR 257 .
    Even though we heard of their improvement bits, we were slightly reluctant to opt for Tata. But touchwood, in its first 3-weeks of ownership, nothing untoward happened and hoping for this honeymoon to continue for next 5-7 years. :grin:

    Everyone says that they are using AC 100%, but in reality it is much more than that. While the car is idle on a red light signal, or waiting for few minutes at some place for a family member to return soon. All such instances put an unprecedented toll on FE. This is why I always use the term 110% of usage. :p

    Thanks, for speaking your heart. Although I would vouch for the comfort of an automatic transmission car, but it is actually a no-fun car to an enthusiast.
    I love all our other MT cars. when in a hurry! Tiago AMT is a baby car which needs to be driven sanely. Although manual mode does take care of momentary cravings for sudden thrust, it is the real MT which wins me over. :)

    Regarding CNG, I am the least informed person these days. Not using CNG for last many years. Long queues at filling stations are getting longer with each passing day. Call me anything, but I am not recommending CNG to anyone these days. Not because for any lag in its performance, economical benefits or else, but due to wastage of time for buying the fuel. I can't see myself waiting for 30 minutes and then another 4-5 minutes in hot weather at a fuel pump.
     
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    Fuel Economy:
    Checked with brim to brim method. It sipped in some 24.5 litres of petrol (it gulped over 3 litres after the first auto-cutoff at the nozzle and then I refrained from pushing in more fuel) after covering 310 KMs. This gives an FE of approximately 12.5KMPL before its first service, and after being driven mostly in 3th and 4th gear with AC for 110% of drive time.

    Engine Performance (600KMs):
    Since I am preferring to run-in the engine old-school way, it mostly stays in 1200-2500 RPM zone. Only on couple of occasions I took it till 4K in all drive modes viz., City, Sports and Manual. In Manual mode, acceleration is pretty good and feels close to MT powered cars of similar capacity.
    IIRC, it cruises on 90KMPH with 5th gear and AC on full capacity in City driving mode.
     
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