Would you like to travel to Kashmir in 2019?

Would you like to travel to Kashmir in 2019?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 6 37.5%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 2 12.5%

  • Total voters
    16

Yogesh Sarkar

Administrator
The past few days have been quite tense in Jammu and Kashmir, and I see quite a few people confused about their upcoming travel plans to the valley.

So I would love to hear from you, a travel enthusiast, whether you would like to travel to Kashmir Valley this year?

If possible, please let us know why you would or would not be travelling to the valley.

Oh yes, please keep the politics out of all this.
 

Ratkes

New Member
We were planning a trip through Kashmir for 2020, but we are now looking to avoid the region. Let me explain. I am from the UK and we were in Dharamsala 2 years ago and met an Australian who had been held in safe custody by the army near Srinagar. The army detained a lot of Foreign travellers and escorted them out of the region.
I am not put off by what is happening ( the media always hype up trouble ) and I would guess the chances of getting caught up in trouble must be pretty remote. However if we got stopped by the army and even turned round, the problems that would cause to our trip would make going to this region not viable.
Sadly it is exactly this reaction that people want. They want to de stabilise the region.
If I felt we could travel unhindered by the security services I wouldn’t hesitate to travel through Kashmir.
 

Yogesh Sarkar

Administrator
We were planning a trip through Kashmir for 2020, but we are now looking to avoid the region. Let me explain. I am from the UK and we were in Dharamsala 2 years ago and met an Australian who had been held in safe custody by the army near Srinagar. The army detained a lot of Foreign travellers and escorted them out of the region.
I am not put off by what is happening ( the media always hype up trouble ) and I would guess the chances of getting caught up in trouble must be pretty remote. However if we got stopped by the army and even turned round, the problems that would cause to our trip would make going to this region not viable.
Sadly it is exactly this reaction that people want. They want to de stabilise the region.
If I felt we could travel unhindered by the security services I wouldn’t hesitate to travel through Kashmir.
I guess that was done by the army to ensure the safety of foreign tourists. However, tourists are rarely harmed in Kashmir.

I agree, uncertainty is a big issue while traveling to Kashmir and one has to be more flexible while traveling there.
 

Ratkes

New Member
I guess that was done by the army to ensure the safety of foreign tourists. However, tourists are rarely harmed in Kashmir.

I agree, uncertainty is a big issue while traveling to Kashmir and one has to be more flexible while traveling there.
It was almost certainly done for the safety of tourists.
Sadly as we are all too aware we almost certainly have a far higher chance of being killed or injured riding a motorcycle than we ever would by a terrorist. But that wouldn’t make the news.
Yes it was wrong that all those people died on a bus. But it was reported that in 2016 there were an average of 400 people killed everyday on the roads in India. And here in the UK with obviously much smaller population it is about 5.
We did a tour of Tunisia just after the So called Arab spring when all the tyrants were replaced by elected government. The place was deserted. No tourists, no money. Then they got terrorists and just as it was getting better it got worse again. That just fuels more people to feel dissatisfied.


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Rohit Kothari

Super User
It was almost certainly done for the safety of tourists.
Sadly as we are all too aware we almost certainly have a far higher chance of being killed or injured riding a motorcycle than we ever would by a terrorist. But that wouldn’t make the news.
Yes it was wrong that all those people died on a bus. But it was reported that in 2016 there were an average of 400 people killed everyday on the roads in India. And here in the UK with obviously much smaller population it is about 5.
We did a tour of Tunisia just after the So called Arab spring when all the tyrants were replaced by elected government. The place was deserted. No tourists, no money. Then they got terrorists and just as it was getting better it got worse again. That just fuels more people to feel dissatisfied.


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You might want to rephrase the words as you are comparing the cold blooded mass murder of armed forces personnel by a terrorist with no of people killed on roads. And that is not the right thing to do at this moment. It is borderline insensitive and even provocative given the emotions and anger in the people.

If someone has to go he will go. Kashmir always had problems and has been a hot bed for terrorist activities. Yet it has rarely seen a drop in tourists specially domestic ones.
 

nadz11.ns

Super User
It depends on how one views kashmir and the kashmiri people as a whole.

I for one felt more uncomfortable in Rajasthan this past December than I felt in peak protests in the last couple of years of travelling to Kashmir.

Anyways, those people who want to travel, will travel. I saw numerous tourists along Dal last year when media was saying that tourists have abandoned the valley.
 
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Yogesh Sarkar

Administrator
Statistically speaking, there are lakhs of tourists visiting Kashmir. However, numbers have reduced in the past few years. I am saying this based on the statistics provided by the J&K Tourism Department and my interaction with the hoteliers and drivers in Kashmir, last year.

You might want to rephrase the words as you are comparing the cold blooded mass murder of armed forces personnel by a terrorist with no of people killed on roads. And that is not the right thing to do at this moment. It is borderline insensitive and even provocative given the emotions and anger in the people.

If someone has to go he will go. Kashmir always had problems and has been a hot bed for terrorist activities. Yet it has rarely seen a drop in tourists specially domestic ones.
I do not think @Ratkes is comparing the terrorist attack on the CRPF bus with people dying in accidents. He is talking about the statistical chance of a tourist being killed or hurt in Kashmir vs. chances of being killed in an accident.
 

Rohit Kothari

Super User
Statistically speaking, there are lakhs of tourists visiting Kashmir. However, numbers have reduced in the past few years. I am saying this based on the statistics provided by the J&K Tourism Department and my interaction with the hoteliers and drivers in Kashmir, last year.


I do not think @Ratkes is comparing the terrorist attack on the CRPF bus with people dying in accidents. He is talking about the statistical chance of a tourist being killed or hurt in Kashmir vs. chances of being killed in an accident.
Yes, but sometimes statistics can be insensitive. You don't tell relatives of plane crash victims that chances of people dying in airplane crash is less than dying in a road accident, even though it is a well established statistic. A loss is a loss. "Yes it was wrong that all those people died on a bus. But it was reported that in 2016 there were an average of 400 people killed everyday on the roads in India. " That 'But' is critical there. That is what is connecting the two sentences IMO.
Just imagine the airline company addressing the crash victim's families and saying - "It was unfortunate that all those people died on an airplane. But statistically chances of dying on an airplane are lower than the chances of you dying while driving. So, keep flying with us."
Funny part of statistical chance or probability is that there is an eventuality associated with it. If you do that certain amounts of time, it is bound to happen, mathematically.
 
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